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Title: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: hostile17 on Sunday 23 March 25 23:17 GMT (UK)

Hello everyone,
I am hoping someone here can help me discover who the parents of Moses Smith b. 1816 Harby, Lincolnshire are. His father is listed as Thomas Smith but I can't pin down which Thomas he may be. Moses was the husband of Eldrei Gray/Mobbs, they married July - Sept 1846 in Lincoln, Lincolnshire volume 14 page 715.
Thanks in advance,
Sue

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 24 March 25 00:46 GMT (UK)

Is this the right 1871 entry?

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB8D-TMY?lang=en

If so - birthyear 1812 & children born before 1846 so was it a second marriage for Moses?

Eldri died 1865 aged 42 so was only 23yrs old  in 1846

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 24 March 25 01:06 GMT (UK)

1841 census Framland
Moses Smith 20, also with siblings, and possibly his mother Sylvia age 65, net maker.



Baptism - Moses Smith
19 May 1816
Harby,Leicester,England
Father   Thomas Smith
Mother   Sylvia

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 24 March 25 01:09 GMT (UK)

Possible death .....

SMITH, SILBEN       age 72 
GRO Reference: 1848  D Quarter in GRANTHAM UNION  Volume 14  Page 272

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 24 March 25 01:20 GMT (UK)

There is a tree on FamilySearch which might be worth looking at.

https://www.familysearch.org/en/tree/pedigree/landscape/M6KT-NPT

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 24 March 25 01:22 GMT (UK)

1861 shows birthplace as Harby Leicestershire - 1817.  Brother Thomas b 1811 Rutland

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWMC-BSG?lang=en

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 24 March 25 01:29 GMT (UK)

Quote from: CaroleW on Monday 24 March 25 01:22 GMT (UK)

   Brother Thomas b 1811 Rutland

Thomas Smith (the brother)
Baptism 18 Dec. 1814 , Teigh, Rutland, England
Son of Thomas and Sarah Smith – traveller

Sarah possibly an earlier / different wife

Did he have several "wives"?

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 24 March 25 01:38 GMT (UK)

The wife named Sarah?

Death / burial
Ab Kettleby, Leicestershire, England
21 Nov 1834
Sarah Smith, a Gypsy, age 34

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: hostile17 on Monday 24 March 25 01:47 GMT (UK)

Thank you, both of you found the right Moses, with his mothers name as Silvia, now the hunt begins for a Thomas/Sylvia marriage and possibly an earlier marriage to a Sarah. Maybe one of the documents was mistranscribed, Silvia and Sarah could be the same person. There are many Sarah Smith deaths, picking the right one may be tricky.

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 24 March 25 01:56 GMT (UK)

If you read my posts above you will see that there were at least 2 "wives" but possibly they were never married.
Sarah died 1834
Sylvia died 1848

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Thomas Smith
Baptism - 4 May 1791
North Kilworth, Leicester, England
Father   Absolam Smith
Mother   Sarah Smith

A tree on Ancestry has a burial for this Thomas Smith on 4 June 1836
Ab Kettleby, Leicestershire,

Title: Re: Parents of Moses Smith
Post by: hostile17 on Monday 24 March 25 02:02 GMT (UK)

That's great, so Thomas is the son of Absolom, he will be easier to trace. Now for Silvia, I can't see a marriage for Thomas Smith and Silvia