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Title: Wern ~ Jones/Hugh
Post by: ashtayl04 on Sunday 23 March 25 08:29 GMT (UK)
Hello Everyone, i seem to really struggle with the Carmarthenshire side of family history, and was hoping i could get some help?

So the person in question is Lucy Jones born 20/04/1849 at Wern, Llanelly, Carmarthenshire to Margaret Hugh & Griffith Jones

In Griffith & Margaret’s Jones Marriage they had 6 Children,

Mary Ann b.1845
Margaret b.1851
Griffith b.1853
Morris b.1854
Elizabeth b.1857
Harriet b.1861

1851 ~ Family are residing at Wern
1861 ~ Family are now residing at Llansamlet in Neath (District)
And by 1871 the siblings above are living with Lucy Jones in Llangyfelach, Swansea

At this point Griffith Jones & Margaret Hugh have vanished,

I did find an 1841 census for Llanelli that states the abode as “Wern” that feautured
William Hugh & Margaret both born 1796
Eldest daughter Margaret, (dob fits in with Margaret Jones,
And siblings
Eliz
Harriet
Mary Ann
David
Henry

Some of these names are similar to Margaret jones Children, and coincidentally both are situated at Wern, Griffith and & Margaret married 1848 in Llanbeblig, but Margaret has married as hughes, 7 year prior, would make sense for the family to be situated at wern, having that been the birthplace for Lucy in 1849

Definetly interested to see what happened to Lucy’s siblings and Parents
Title: Re: Wern ~ Jones/Hugh
Post by: HistoricalGenealogy on Sunday 23 March 25 09:00 GMT (UK)
There is a possiblity for the death record of Griffith Jones from 1863:
Griffith Jones – Death – Second Quarter, 1863 – Llanelly, County Carmarthenshire, Wales
Title: Re: Wern ~ Jones/Hugh
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 23 March 25 09:12 GMT (UK)
There is a possiblity for the death record of Griffith Jones from 1863:
Griffith Jones – Death – Second Quarter, 1863 – Llanelly, County Carmarthenshire, Wales

Griffith aged 35 in 1861

JONES, GRIFFITH       aged 31 
GRO Reference: 1863  J Quarter in LLANELLY  Volume 11A  Page 351

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Title: Re: Wern ~ Jones/Hugh
Post by: ashtayl04 on Sunday 23 March 25 15:16 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Wern ~ Jones/Hugh
Post by: ashtayl04 on Sunday 23 March 25 15:18 GMT (UK)
However, i feel this doesn’t provide us much information, we know he was a copper man, and that he was born around 1826 but this doesn’t tell us wether he was the husband of Margaret, perhaps we can try find margaret’s reg
Title: Re: Wern ~ Jones/Hugh
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 23 March 25 15:25 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Wern ~ Jones/Hugh
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 23 March 25 15:36 GMT (UK)
Believe this is the above Griffith in 1861, (another child possibly Margaret born 1863 after fathers death) see 1871 census

Piece   4112
Folio   56
Page number   58

Household Members (Name)   Age   Relationship
Griffith Jones   28   Head
Rachel Jones 33 Wife
Mary Jones 7 Daughter
David Jones 2 Son

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added, by 1871 census Rachel is a widow living with her parents and 3 children
Title: Re: Wern ~ Jones/Hugh
Post by: ashtayl04 on Sunday 23 March 25 15:59 GMT (UK)
The above states he has left a wife and three children, however my Griffith had 7 children?
Title: Re: Wern ~ Jones/Hugh
Post by: osprey on Sunday 23 March 25 17:05 GMT (UK)
info from another post

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=889508.msg7631021#msg7631021