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https://cultbox.co.uk/news/who-do-you-think-you-are-series-22-guests-announced
Looking forward to all of these.
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Looks like a good selection.
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Super look forward to it.
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Thanks for your post.
I only know a few of the names and the name I'm most looking forward to is Will Young, who I was instantly drawn to when he entered a talent show. I have no idea why I was drawn to him, so I will keep my ears open in case there's a place or surname that is in my tree.
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Great. Best TV programme there is.
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I don`t know them all but will watch the series anyway. Something to look forward to.
i haven`t found the start date, only that is is the Spring.
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I only know of Ross Kemp through his documentaries, Will Young and Mishal Hussain. I don’t watch any of the other programmes so the names mean nothing to me.
I don’t watch WDYTYA for the personalities but for the genealogical interest. I would be just as interested if they picked a member of the public as the subject.
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I am sure there are numerous Rootschatters who could supply equally interesting material.
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I am sure there are numerous Rootschatters who could supply equally interesting material.
Been discussed before! :D
Few people would bother to watch?
E.G. Do you watch WDYTYA USA?
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I am sure there are numerous Rootschatters who could supply equally interesting material.
Been discussed before! :D
Few people would bother to watch?
E.G. Do you watch WDYTYA USA?
I am not sure if that is valid.
DNA Family Secrets.
Long Lost Family
Both have stood the test of time and not being a BBC series if these did not attract the advertising revenue then no doubt they would be cancelled.
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I am sure there are numerous Rootschatters who could supply equally interesting material.
Been discussed before! :D
Few people would bother to watch?
E.G. Do you watch WDYTYA USA?
I am not sure if that is valid.
DNA Family Secrets.
Long Lost Family
Both have stood the test of time and not being a BBC series if these did not attract the advertising revenue then no doubt they would be cancelled.
I don't watch either show ;)
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Bit off topic so I hope this is the right place to put this but here's the lineup for the next season of Who Do You Think You Are UK:
Andrew Garfield, Diane Morgan, Mishal Husain, Ross Kemp, Aisling Bea, Will Young, Fred Sirieix and Layton Williams.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2025/who-do-you-think-you-are-line-up-spring
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Being discussed here
Moderator comment: topics merged
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I have watched all of those shows mentioned;
DNA Family Secrets
Long Lost Family
WDYTYA US, AU, UK
+ NZ shows DNA Detectives and Lost and Found
Some of NZ ones can be found on Youtube.
Trish :)
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Ross Kemp will be especially interesting. He was married to Rebekah Brooks the CEO of Rupert Murdoch's News International / News UK.
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I quite like watching Long Lost Family but it is more for tracing living relatives or biological family who may or may not have died, I guess a genealogy style WDYTYA for Joe Public would be good but it may not get the viewers that the celeb WDYTYA would get.
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First episode, Andrew Garfield, to be shown on BBC1 Tuesday 22nd April, 9pm.
Repeated Thursday 24th April 11pm.
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I shall watch that on my friend's TV it's one of the very best TV programmes there is. I often wish I had the research skills of the professionals supporting WDYTYA
(I got rid off my TV due to so much rubbish on it)
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First episode, Andrew Garfield, to be shown on BBC1 Tuesday 22nd April, 9pm.
Repeated Thursday 24th April 11pm.
Thanks. I`m looking forward to this new series, but have to say I`ve no idea who Andrew Garfield "is" !!
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That is because you are the wrong generation. ;D ;D
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Garfield
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Those american generation definitions like "baby boomers" are very convenient but not uniformly true.
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Aisling Bea is an Irish comedian/actress, mainly appearing on QI and 8 Out Of 10 Cats Does Countdown. Real name is Aisling Clíodhnadh O'Sullivan.
Believe her ancestral patch is the Parish of Allen in County Kildare, where my Irish lot were from, so am interested in her for that reason.
Ian C
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Looking forward to it starting :)
New series just started in QZ "The Secret DNA of Us"
First episode was very interesting.
Quote;
It's a world-first television series where four Australian towns and neighborhoods had mass DNA tests to uncover hidden historical chapters and reveal more about the nation's identity, according to SBS.
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Looking forward to it starting :)
New series just started in QZ "The Secret DNA of Us"
First episode was very interesting.
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It's a world-first television series where four Australian towns and neighborhoods had mass DNA tests to uncover hidden historical chapters and reveal more about the nation's identity, according to SBS.
I've just watched the trailer on youtube as it seems an interesting idea but I suspect the ethnicity aspect of results will dominate a lot of the footage.
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Hi Glen.
Yes ethnicity does dominate the 1st episode.
Most areas of Australia were changed as different immigrants arrived.
This town had Scottish/Chinese/Indians/Eastern Europeans arrive from 1840 to early 1900's.
From memory it was a town of 18,000 and only probably a 100 odd were tested.
2 people they concentrated on;
A woman of 70 who never knew who her Father was as she was adopted.
They traced him which was very emotional for her as she has 2 half siblings.
An indigenous who found he had Hawaiian and Maori about 250 years ago in is DNA (the area was a large Whaling place then)
In general most thought they would be mostly Scottish and percentages were different than thought in general.
One woman had 15 different areas in her DNA.
Also a couple of people were 4 cousins and didnt know it.
Was still interesting though :)
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That is because you are the wrong generation. ;D ;D
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Garfield
I`ve always thought of myself as a baby boomer ! according to some sources I belong to the Silent Generation 1928 to 1945 (year of my birth) .
Apparently my husband knows "exactly" who Andrew Garfield "is". As he`s a few years younger than me this maybe puts him in the "right" generation ! :)
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They're all from showbiz/media, and I only recognise two of the eight names.
Where are the scientists, academics, writers, artists, classical musicians, sportspeople, even (dare I say it) politicians? Or people of Scots or Welsh ancestry?
I think WDYTYA is fine, and often quite interesting, as entertainment, but it makes it look far too easy to research your family. It is easy if you have an army of professional researchers beavering away behind the scenes!
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Andrew Garfield, Diane Morgan, Mishal Husain, Ross Kemp, Aisling Bea, Will Young, Fred Sirieix and Layton Williams.
Mishal Husain's family history has already been told in her excellent book 'Broken Threads'.
I hope they aren't going to present what she already knows as 'revelations' and expect her to look surprised.
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Andrew Garfield, Diane Morgan, Mishal Husain, Ross Kemp, Aisling Bea, Will Young, Fred Sirieix and Layton Williams.
Mishal Husain's family history has already been told in her excellent book 'Broken Threads'.
I hope they aren't going to present what she already knows as 'revelations' and expect her to look surprised.
As I not very conversant with all the many media folk,
I have just looked up this intelligent audio interview [without the film pictures], and so have now settled in to listen to this thoughtful interview. Thank you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6bmGrfOQV8
The only missing aspect is the generational diagrams [tree] that helps me make sense of her multi-generational stories.
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Did anyone else watch the first episode last night with Andrew Garfield ? I thought it was very interesting and I didn’t know the actor except from the adverts he does on tv!
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I thought it was excellent.
I already knew who he was as an actor but it was lovely to see his very human side :)
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I knew only that the man was an actor, but I did quite enjoy it. He did seem interested, even though he really probably knew most of the basics.
TY
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Mishal Husain's was fascinating and the lineage certainly startled her. It wasn't what she has described in her book
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Did anyone else watch the first episode last night with Andrew Garfield ? I thought it was very interesting and I didn’t know the actor except from the adverts he does on tv!
Spiderman
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Looking forward to it as going to watch later tonight :)
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Thoroughly enjoyed the Mishal Husain programme. What a variety of experiences!
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At last something different, I know they have done Anglo Indian before but all the information about the French and Danish involvement was new and Americans in India, who knew that.
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I found the Mishal Hussein programme quite interesting, even though my mind was galloping trying to keep up with loads of Indian subcontinent placename changes!
TY
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I thoroughly enjoyed this episode and found Mishal's surprise and delight as her ancestors' history was revealed really entertaining. Though her travels took her both to India and the USA, she didn't seem to do a great deal of research herself, but was supplied with information by other researchers.
I did find it annoying that Phil Davis in his commentary seemed to be pronouncing Mishal's name as Michelle. I guess this happens to her a lot.
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Mishal Hussein.
One of if not the best WDYTYA episode ever.
Made even more memorable by her sheer joy of finding every aspect of her family.
India, Denmark, Ireland and the USA in one episode, so do take time out to watch it.
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Not one of my favourites but I guess it depends what subjects you are interested in. The US history part I enjoyed.
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What is a "gateway" surname in us ?
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Not one of my favourites but I guess it depends what subjects you are interested in. The US history part I enjoyed.
I agree, but it "is" made to look easy, when we all know how difficult it can be. I can`t remember an episode where someone has said just how many hours it took(takes) to find a record.
I`ve spent all day on occasion at the archives only to leave without finding any success.
Mishal was a breath of fresh air not saying "wow" ( or even worse wowsers) once ! Jerry Hall springs to mind!!
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What is a "gateway" surname in us ?
In lineage societies, the frequently-used term 'gateway ancestor' refers to an ancestor who has a known lineage which can be traced back to a person of prominence. Proven lines to gateway ancestors can result in descendants being accepted into many hereditary societies.
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I found the Mishal Hussein programme quite interesting, even though my mind was galloping trying to keep up with loads of Indian subcontinent placename changes!
TY
Me too!
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What is a "gateway" surname in us ?
In lineage societies, the frequently-used term 'gateway ancestor' refers to an ancestor who has a known lineage which can be traced back to a person of prominence. Proven lines to gateway ancestors can result in descendants being accepted into many hereditary societies.
Thank you Rena that is a great help. It certainly explains the feeling I have that trees of ordinary people (like me) are being judged by anonymous others for "usefulness"
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Really great and interesting episode :)
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Further to Reply#45
It must be the amateur classicist in me but I always associate (city) gates and gateways as being places of tax / tithe payment.
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Further to Reply#45
It must be the amateur classicist in me but I always associate (city) gates and gateways as being places of tax / tithe payment.
Oh? And how many times have you paid taxes or tithes at a city gate?
Furthermore, what has this to do with the topic under discussion?
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I must admit to being interested in the social and economic history of my FH. (Seems like the whole world is paying it's dues at the moment)
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I wonder if the Great Famine of Ireland in the 1840s makes some people wonder if they have an Irish ancestor who came over to the UK, or it sparked rumours that people are descended from the immigrants who came over in the famine. Ross Kemp was told his 2xgreat grandad was likely from Ireland but he was born in Portsmouth in 1850, as was his parents, and his wife and her parents. I often do some follow ups from WDYTYA once the show has aired. I am sure many genealogists do. I am sure the researchers for WDYTYA delved further into John Chalmers ancestors and found no Irish.
It is a case of John Hurt all over again, thinking he was descended from the Marquis of Sligo. ;D
June Brown said in her autobiography that her great grandad James Butler came to Peterborough from Ireland in the 1840s during the famine, when I looked him up and manged to find where his parents were born, and they were all born and raised in the Peterborough area. No Irish in the blood. I guess why let facts get in the way of a good story about supposed immigrant ancestry. June's Jewish line in London is correct as that was documented when she did WDYTYA.
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I did find the "Kemp" episode more interesting than I had anticipated.
TY
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I did find the "Kemp" episode more interesting than I had anticipated.
TY
I agree :)
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Kemp programme was great. I hope it encourages more people to know their FH , it might be much more significant than they realise.
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The Chalmers line on an Ancestry tree has been traced back to the mid 1700s, and all from the Hampshire or Sussex area. You never know, there may have been an Irish sailor or something in the line somewhere but it is quite a long way back. Or they were friends with Irish people, and the tale of the Kemp's Irish blood got garbled.
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I did find the "Kemp" episode more interesting than I had anticipated.
TY
I agree :) I also agree !!
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Not one of my favourites but I guess it depends what subjects you are interested in. The US history part I enjoyed.
I agree, but it "is" made to look easy, when we all know how difficult it can be. I can`t remember an episode where someone has said just how many hours it took(takes) to find a record.
I`ve spent all day on occasion at the archives only to leave without finding any success.
Mishal was a breath of fresh air not saying "wow" ( or even worse wowsers) once ! Jerry Hall springs to mind!!
With more coming online, it can still be hard if not impossible to find, say for example, a link between 2 families in the same area once you get back to the 1700s. I still like to do FH the old fashioned way, and I plan a trip to the Society of Genealogists soon.
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I did some research for WDYTYA a few years back.
Manx Parish Registers of the relevant time didn't always enter Occupation or Abode.
So, the baptism I needed was narrowed down to 1 of 12 possibles, with nothing to distinguish between them! (It was quite a common name :D)
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I know that feeling! Sometimes you think EVERYONE with a certain surname was obliged to have the same parents and first names, just to confuse us all!
TY
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I think it is impossible to untangle them, and you may never know for sure who was who if some families lived in the same area and had children of same names. In genealogy you have to perhaps admit defeat with some lines, rather than waste time on a wild goose chase. In those days they were not too worried about people tracing them 300 years down the line.
I one workplace I had about 8 or 9 people with the surname Smith over the years, and 4 or 5 working there at the same time. I had the same surname as another colleague, much less common than Smith, and got asked if he was my "old man". I said no, it is purely coincidence.
2 other colleagues, 2 people came originally from Grimsby and moved down to Norfolk, but one of them said he did not know the other one when they were one living in Grimsby and they were the same age. In 300 years their descendants may falsely assume they were related, or pals, and moved to Norfolk together for work.
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Tuesday 27th May. At last something different.
Fred Serieix OK not many of us will be researching French ancestors but a different slant on World Wars 1 and 2 both times their own home country being invaded.
The researchers did suggest records could be difficult to find but they did come up with some.
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OH found - and I'm afraid I agreed with him - the "Serieix" one so bad that we changed to watch something else. Usually there's something more interesting in most of them. Ah well. Can't have good ones each time.
TY
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I enjoyed the Fred Serieix episode. :D
The program showed some of the differences between our records and those of other countries.
My paternal tree goes back to the time of Edward VI - 1550.
Something that didn't seem to be possible with French records?
Even seeing a different slant on WW1 and WW2 was interesting! And I usually get bored with UK WW1 and WW2 stories.
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I thought the Fred Sirieix episode was interesting too. I learnt something new, (always a good thing) about the decimation of the French vineyards in the 1860's and 1870's by Phylloxera, known as the Great French wine blight.Just under half of all vineyards were destroyed. I also found his visit to the abandoned orphanage in Paris was quite poignant.
Good, also, to have a slightly different viewpoint of the two world wars.
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I enjoyed it too and agree with comments of the last 2 members.
He seemed genuinely interested and affected by what was found.
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That's good. I think my OH simply didn't like the chap's presentation, he doesn't seem to like t.v. chefs!
TY
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That's good. I think my OH simply didn't like the chap's presentation, he doesn't seem to like t.v. chefs!
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At least he isn't an ACTOR ( you probably know what I mean ) he did appear to be genuine.
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It was thoroughly enjoyable.
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I quite liked the episode as well, and on a side note I just got back from being at the Society of Genealogists yesterday. Staff there said during my 5 hour stay I could look at the FamilySearch records that are usually only available at FH centres and affiliate libraries, as SOG is affiliate. Also you can even do a keyword search with searchable text, and can get results for PCC wills etc, and many other records, but I am not sure how you can rely on that.
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i dont have a TV and am missing watching these programs hopefully i will get to see them at my sisters house
especially the French connection as i recently helped a french man identify his northampton WW1 soldier grandfather
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I’m not usually that keen on Fred Sirieix as he reminds me of the Duracell bunny advert (in the uk we get an advert for a rabbit that is fitted with very long lasting batteries and it’s all a bit hyper). However I found this episode very interesting and poignant in places, such as when he was in the derelict hospice with the statue in the courtyard.
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I like the duracell bunny comparison - clever and accurate!
Re the "Young" programme Tuesday evening: Better than I'd expected, although the Royal links did seem a bit "Danny Dyer" - and not quite clear exactly how the in-between worked to link the very earliest to the known family history /miniature paintings already laid down. Perhaps that's just me, missing something?
TY
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I like the duracell bunny comparison - clever and accurate!
Re the "Young" programme Tuesday evening: Better than I'd expected, although the Royal links did seem a bit "Danny Dyer" - and not quite clear exactly how the in-between worked to link the very earliest to the known family history /miniature paintings already laid down. Perhaps that's just me, missing something?
TY
I found it an odd programme. Spending half of the time going through his grandfather's RAF career then a quick world tour mentioning the 2 WDYTYA buzz words Ireland and slaves. Then a quick unrolling of a family tree and we are into the 14th century and 2 kings.
Mind you an odd lot of ancestors.
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It did jump about a bit and there were lots of generation gaps, but the documentary information was interesting stuff. I enjoyed it and Will seemed genuine, unlike some of the actors we have seen.
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Oh think I must have missed an episode? The last one I saw was the Fred one.
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I missed the Fred Sirieix episode but have just viewed his journey down the generations on the BBC website. His reactions to every discovery reminded me that I had gone through the same gamut of emotions when I came across sad and happy events.
I remember seeing singer/actor Will Young on an early TV talent show. I also recall feeling quite maternal about him, which I thought was due to his demeanour.
However, now that I've seen his journey I think maybe back in time we could have had a tenuous family link.
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As for the Will Young show . It was entertaining and good to hear about the Grandfather's life . The only part I thought was "corny" was going back 14 generations to a King!. This is too far back .
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As for the Will Young show . It was entertaining and good to hear about the Grandfather's life . The only part I thought was "corny" was going back 14 generations to a King!. This is too far back .
I have 14 generations going back from myself!
Add in my daughters and grandchildren and I have 16 generations on my tree.
I don't consider that as "too far back".
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But did you get back to a king? ;D
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But did you get back to a king? ;D
I wasn't interested in convoluted sideways lines! ;)
But I do have a link to John Constable (RA). His grandmother Judith Garrad is my 6xGreat-Grandmother!
His Aunt, Ann Constable married back into the Garrad family.
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Constable far more noteworthy than a tenuous link to a long-gone King!
I'm quite delighted that I've no Royal or noble connections anywhere! Quite proud of it, in fact.
TY
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I have 16 generations. No-one famous, but pretty sure it's accurate.
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Constable far more noteworthy than a tenuous link to a long-gone King!
I'm quite delighted that I've no Royal or noble connections anywhere! Quite proud of it, in fact.
TY
Yes TY, but it is always the poor people who died of cold and starvation and the soldiers (both rich and poor) at the front of an army that die, which means most of us must have descended from a person of higher birth who had a trade (such as a wheelwright/shipwright/blacksmith, etc.) . When William 1st (William the Conqueror) sailed from Normandy in Europe in 1066 to claim the throne of England from King Harold Godwinson he found that the Anglo Saxon people of the North of England (Lancashire, Yorkshire, Cumbria, Derbyshire, Northumbria) were not particularly welcoming. William eventually claimed the throne of England after Harold died with an arrow in his eye and his followers ran off.
William exacted revenge on the northern people of England by what is known as "The Harrying Of The North" - in other words he and his men swept into every village, hamlet, etc. killing every living person they could find.
So, when an army kills all the peasants and famine/bad harvests kill off peasants in other parts of the land, it means only the lucky people who own the land such as tribal leaders, Bishops, Archbishops, Monks in Monasteries which are attached to Granges (large farms).
I'm suprised there was anyone left in England when I remember history lessons of various religious differences, when at one time the Roman Catholics were in fear of their lives and at other times Protestants were afraid to disclose their affiliation in case they too were put on the rack and/or hung, drawn and quartered. Then there was the English Civil War when the roundheads led by Oliver Cromwell, went round the UK killing off anyone who supported the King.
The last sentence has reminded me: When my late OH was posted to Lincolnshire in 1964 we lived in an old manor house which had been divided up into three separate quarters. From the main upstairs bedroom there were three steps up to a laundry room. One evening OH was in the bathroom and I was reading in the bedroom when I looked up into the dividing room and saw four men (ghosts) - one man facing the other three and seemngly giving instructions - all of them were wearing old fashioned armour and helmets. Years later I surfed online to see who had owned the place and found that a royalist had owned the original house, which explained why the roundheads were searching for something.
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Oooh! I hope you told them firmly that you did not believe in them!! Many years ago, a rather frightened child after too much late night television, asked me what I would do if I met a ghost... I replied, "it depends if we had been introduced...."
My grandmother was into spiritualism at one time, some relationship via marriage with Helen Duncan, and her ilk, but I really can't say I think "the departed" would want to hang around repeating their own life events. TY
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Just downloaded Will Young episode so will watch later.
As I do it that way I have the ability to pause and look properly at Tree of family lines/connections they are following.
Hard to figure it out sometimes otherwise.
Closest I've got to anyone famous is Iris Murdoch my second cousin.
Have her Grandparents NZ M/C.
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Oooh! I hope you told them firmly that you did not believe in them!! Many years ago, a rather frightened child after too much late night television, asked me what I would do if I met a ghost... I replied, "it depends if we had been introduced...."
My grandmother was into spiritualism at one time, some relationship via marriage with Helen Duncan, and her ilk, but I really can't say I think "the departed" would want to hang around repeating their own life events. TY
Well, well, well - and ooo-er !!! I typed a response to your posting and low and behold the keyboard spacebar siezed up and I had to get my son to get the darned thing to work again. Of course, my typed response has vanished into the computer's invisible bin - so this is my 2nd try......
I remember my dad saying he had to accompany his mother to several public seances as she tried to contact her dead husband (who died when my dad was 16 yrs old) . He believed that conversations by women in the queues to these meetings were used by the medium on the stage. My mother always said "When you're dead, you're dead".
The town of York in England is famous for sightings of Roman soldiers. I remember in the days of black and white TV there were reports on the news and in the newspapers of a policeman and a sixteen year old boy who, at different times, had seen a Roman Legion (soldiers) marching through a cellar but there were no legs below the knees. I've just surfed to find an article and found a few videos and other comments. Apparently archeologists have discovered that the ground in York is higher than it used to be in Roman times, which explained why they and their horses were walking on a ground at a lower levell.
.... and the different floor levels in the old manor house in Sleaford, near RAF Cranwell, where we lived, probably explained why I could only "see" the top half of the Parliament Roundhead soldiers.
AI just found this for me :-
"During the English Civil War (1642-1651), Sleaford, Lincolnshire, was a place where both royalist and Parliamentarian sympathies existed. While some families actively supported the monarchy, others sided with Parliament. The Hussey family, who owned the manor of Old Sleaford, were a prominent royalist family, with Sir John Hussey being executed for treason in the Lincolnshire Rising"
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Just downloaded Will Young episode so will watch later.
As I do it that way I have the ability to pause and look properly at Tree of family lines/connections they are following.
Hard to figure it out sometimes otherwise.
Closest I've got to anyone famous is Iris Murdoch my second cousin.
Have her Grandparents NZ M/C.
I just view the programmes as light relief but sometimes there's been a hint of something or somewhere that I hadn't thought of when researching my own family.
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Enjoyed last evening's offering more than I would have expected - the "Philomena Cunk" character the actor portrays had led me to expect a really silly one, to join the Anne Reid episode in my "Never again" collection, but the search to restore the "Death Penny" to more appropriate ownership worked. Fortunately, as far as I know, no-one in our extended family ever "earned" one, but I'd rather see things like that with families, than forlorn in antique shops.
TY
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Have recommended my friend watches the Diane Morgan episode, as one of her ancestors who worked in the Yorkshire textile industry moved to Berlin Germany in the 1880's to help establish factories there. He was back here by 1901, with a German wife, so a very similar story.
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I watched the Diane Morgan episode last night and she says she often gets stuck when doing the family tree. I think with many lines you probably have gone back as far as you can go. We can become determined to get back further but if there are too many people to choose from, not enough records we know how it gets harder the further back you go. Hence why it can be a good idea to go sideways for a change, or find out any more on the ancestors you already have found. Some lines you can get back a long way, others you may never get back further than 1800 or more recent, especially with Irish records.
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I had no idea who she was but I really enjoyed the Diane Morgan episode. It was good to see something rather different to those of some of the big names. She seemed genuinely interested, particularly with the connection to Germany. So many people seem to be unaware that there was a lot of crossing the channel for work in both directions long before WW1
I also liked Diane's determination to return the Death Penny to a member of his family and how much it was appreciated. I always think it so sad when you see people selling their family military medals and other articles just because they didn't know them personally.
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As for the Will Young show . It was entertaining and good to hear about the Grandfather's life . The only part I thought was "corny" was going back 14 generations to a King!. This is too far back .
I have 14 generations going back from myself!
Add in my daughters and grandchildren and I have 16 generations on my tree.
I don't consider that as "too far back".
My Wife’s direct line goes back to her 40x Great Grandparents.
Tis only numbers, find one Gateway and things go ballistic.
You find a direct relationship not only to King Edward II, he who was disposed of allegedly by use of a red hot poker but also to the family who orchestrated his demise.
BTW. My Half Brother’s direct line goes back to the same pair of xGreat Grandparents.
Downside being my Mrs is a distant Cousin of Danny Dyer and Boris Johnson and all the other celebrities who have royal lineage.
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As for the Will Young show . It was entertaining and good to hear about the Grandfather's life . The only part I thought was "corny" was going back 14 generations to a King!. This is too far back .
I have 14 generations going back from myself!
Add in my daughters and grandchildren and I have 16 generations on my tree.
I don't consider that as "too far back".
My Wife’s direct line goes back to her 40x Great Grandparents.
Tis only numbers, find one Gateway and things go ballistic.
You find a direct relationship not only to King Edward II, he who was disposed of allegedly by use of a red hot poker but also to the family who orchestrated his demise.
BTW. My Half Brother’s direct line goes back to the same pair of xGreat Grandparents.
Downside being my Mrs is a distant Cousin of Danny Dyer and Boris Johnson and all the other celebrities who have royal lineage.
Your wife is distantly related to my husband too then we won’t talk about the DD connection
Actually Will Young’s line was running along a parallel line to my husband’s line and the name Young does appear as close to his line and appears in quite a few documents though not related as far as I can see. My husband’s 5x great uncle was baron, Sir William Blakeney, a well known military man who was also governor of Gibraltar later in life, quite a few of his Creed nephews were in his regiment and one we to off to Prince Edward Island… note this is a generation before Will’s relative and another one ended up in Australia. I need to check my tree as the full Young name was familiar to me already
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I am a distant cousin of the Krays, someone else had researched their tree and said so on another FH forum and said they had a distinctive surname that I had in my tree, and I checked and it was also my ancestors from Shoreditch in the 1700s. I am quite pleased, and would rather be related to Ron and Reg than Danny Dyer.
Maybe they need a WDYTYA for deceased famous people, or infamous people such as the Krays. ;D
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I am a distant cousin of the Krays, someone else had researched their tree and said so on another FH forum and said they had a distinctive surname that I had in my tree, and I checked and it was also my ancestors from Shoreditch in the 1700s. I am quite pleased, and would rather be related to Ron and Reg than Danny Dyer.
Maybe they need a WDYTYA for deceased famous people, or infamous people such as the Krays. ;D
like that idea! might give a few people a shock though! on my husband’s maternal side Lilly Langtry was godmother to a relative 😂
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Whatever posh is, then my mob were def. not it! Farmhands, farmers, ships' carpenters, cabinet makers, all northern bits of the islands of G.B., nowt from down south, really, and all very "pleb." TY
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I have several Essex ancestors who were mariners and seamen. One of them lost a ship he owned off the coast of Plymouth in Devon in 1812. He survived, unless he had someone sailing for him, but the ancestor then died in 1817 off the coast of Southend.
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Whatever posh is, then my mob were def. not it! Farmhands, farmers, ships' carpenters, cabinet makers, all northern bits of the islands of G.B., nowt from down south, really, and all very "pleb." TY
If they were "posh" then they must have had sufficient money to pay for cool ship cabins when they sailed off to foreign lands to pick up a few souvenirs.
P = Port side (left hand side)
O = Out
S = Starboard side (right hand side)
H = Home.
As the ships sailed from the UK into warm and very warm territory, the sun shone into the Starboard cabins which made it extremely uncomfortable for lady passengers who wore many layers of long garments. Hence they wanted to be cool in the Port side cabins, etc.
I too have a ship's carpenter in the family tree and I have yet to discover whether he stayed on land, or sailed with the wooden ships of the period in order to mend anything that got smashed in violent storms at sea.
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"nowt from down south, really, and all very "pleb." TY"
Nothing from up North in my ancestry, but it doesn't make us posh. ::) No farmers, just ag labs.
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As I am the main family historian in the family I sometimes get people asking me if I can view recent death certs online, or for a birth in London in 1756 they say "You can get the birth certificate, it will give their parents names, mothers maiden name and occupations". If only civil reg had began that far back. The best will be a possible baptism which rarely gave mmn. Or they say the same about a 1750 marriage thinking there will be a cert with all their fathers names etc, when they are 87 years previous to that. ;D The occasional license may give the father of the bride or groom though.
WDYTYA celebs are probably new to this FH and many may not follow it up once their episode has aired.
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Ah, it's a wise child that knows it's own father...
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Despite him not really being around, I never had much doubt about my father, and DNA proved it. I don't think that is why I took the test - not sure now why I did take it? ???
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My mother lost her original (short form) Birth Certificate, and applied for a new one.
It duly arrived showing: Name: Joyce; Sex: Male! ;D
A quick phone call, and she received her correct Certificate ;D
Mistakes do happen.
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I wasn't keen on seeing one of the two subjects speaking to the blonde as though she had no brains.
In response to an earlier post: Earlier this year my son told me that he had applied for MY birth certificate??? and although he gave them my exact maiden name, birth date in 1939 and place of birth (exact home address given as place of birth) and was told that one did not exist !!
I quickly looked at free bmd - yes I'm included in the list of births in the pre 1970s official area of Sculcoates, an area which probably wasn't recognised by modern clerical staff.
Yes - son amended his request to the Registrar in Hull from birth in Hull to birth in Sculcoates and was provided with a copy birth cert.
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My mother lost her original (short form) Birth Certificate, and applied for a new one.
It duly arrived showing: Name: Joyce; Sex: Male! ;D
A quick phone call, and she received her correct Certificate ;D
Mistakes do happen.
I think I have posted this previously but my parents were married in a London church in 1947 on the same day as another couple with exactly the same forenames. When the certificate was received my mum was supposedly married to the other man with the same name and my dad to the other woman with the same name! Was sorted eventually, so yes mistakes are made.
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