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Title: Finding a family member
Post by: hamali on Friday 21 March 25 07:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Can anybody help please.

Im trying to trace a Thomas Coghlan all i have is this he was born 2nd Dec 1889 Belfast Ireland, he then married a Hilda Robertson on 5 july 1919. I have found his army record he joined in 1906 age 18.

Would love any help to find out parents & if he had any brothers or sisters.

Thanks
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: softly softly on Friday 21 March 25 07:46 GMT (UK)
Thomas,Hilda,1 named child and 3 redacted children appear on 1939 war register. Hilda remarried in 1964, so either Thomas has died or they parted/divorced

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Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: hamali on Friday 21 March 25 07:56 GMT (UK)
Hi

Thanks for that but im trying to trace his family back  :)
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 March 25 07:59 GMT (UK)
Do you have his marriage details- his father would be named on the record.
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: hamali on Friday 21 March 25 08:01 GMT (UK)
Hi no sorry dont have that info
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: tonepad on Friday 21 March 25 08:02 GMT (UK)
Does his army record list his Next of Kin?


Tony
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: hamali on Friday 21 March 25 08:07 GMT (UK)
Hi

Yes it does its his wife hilda as its his discharge record in 1923
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 March 25 08:10 GMT (UK)
I see an air Force record - is that it?
You mention an army record.
Does it show any details of his joining up in 1906?  Where he enlisted?

You would be best to buy the marriage certificate
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: AlanBoyd on Friday 21 March 25 08:12 GMT (UK)
The record I have seen at FindMyPast is for his later RFC/RAF service and has his wife as next of kin. Buried on the second page is the fact that he served in France 1914-1917 (he joined the army in 1906) and was recipient of the 1914 Star, the British War Medal and the Victory Medal so there may be another record somewhere.

Added: also the record has him as Roman Catholic, so surely there must be a baptism record?
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 March 25 08:17 GMT (UK)
For information for now.
1901 has a Thomas Coghlan, 13 yrs b Ireland in St Vincent’s Orphanage, Torquay

1901 Piece 2058, folio 11, page 13
https://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/TorquayStVincent/
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: softly softly on Friday 21 March 25 08:17 GMT (UK)
Is it possible that Thomas's actual dob is the 20th of December 1889 rather than the 2nd. I can find 2 births with the 20th as dob.

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Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Friday 21 March 25 08:20 GMT (UK)
Tree on Anc* gives his father as Thomas occ Boilermaker's rivetter, but not much else as proof.

Which may fit with this census 1901

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Down/Pottinger/Anderson_Street/1214548/

Also states unverified but sister Mary marries Robert Grey.

Added - As suggested by Heywood..his MC is best way forward.

Cas
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: heywood on Friday 21 March 25 08:26 GMT (UK)
This is the birth of that Thomas - Belfast - birthdate 14th July 1890
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1890/02422/1902429.pdf
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 21 March 25 08:28 GMT (UK)

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Also states unverified but sister Mary marries Robert Grey.

Marriage - 21 September 1912
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1912/09918/5605261.pdf

Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: softly softly on Friday 21 March 25 08:38 GMT (UK)
Parents marriage, details taken from the birth of daughter Margaret born in 1888 Scotland as p 1901 census.

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1883/10937/5996831.pdf

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Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: Cas (stallc) on Friday 21 March 25 09:02 GMT (UK)
Think this is possibly the birthdate mentioned by OP it does not match his service number with Hilda as NOK.

Name   T Coghlan
Birth Date   2 Dec 1889
Service Number   1461900
Rank   Army Other Ranks, Discharges for 1939-1971
Additional Regiment   Royal Artillery
Reference Number   ADH001835378

I know nothing of Military, maybe his service number changed or it is not him. Also for discharges post 1939

Added 1939 gives his birth as 2 Dec 1889, I wonder did he rejoin for WW11. That would give a new service number?

Cas
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: softly softly on Friday 21 March 25 09:29 GMT (UK)
Back burner, there's only 1 Thomas Coghlan in Dorset in 1939 with the same dob as originally posted. Could this death whilst age is out be him?

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Deaths Sep 1943   
COGHLAN    Thomas    50    Bournemouth    2b   774
Title: Re: Finding a family member
Post by: hamali on Friday 21 March 25 10:25 GMT (UK)
Thank you everybody, i will look into all this info