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Title: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: neelawson on Monday 17 March 25 09:42 GMT (UK)
I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I've 'lost' an aunt and uncle, I can't find them in records besides their birth and 1921 census. Beatrice Clements born 1909 in Middlesbrough and Charles Clements born 1913 in Middlesbrough and George Clements born c 1918 in Middlesbrough. My mother only ever talked about her sister Beatrice who I know moved to London and was definitely still alive in the 1960s but the others I have no information on, maybe they died in the war or emigrated like my uncle Fred? I'd like to find them so I can maybe trace living relatives. Can anyone help?
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 10:30 GMT (UK)
Possible death for George in Stockton district in 2002. Record gives his birth date as 27 Feb 1918
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 10:35 GMT (UK)
Possible for Charles in West Ham in 1939.
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 10:42 GMT (UK)
Possible death for George in Stockton district in 2002. Record gives his birth date as 27 Feb 1918

If you access to Ancestry, George's baptism is on there s/o Thomas William and Edith Beatrice bapt 13 March 1918, born 27 Feb, so it looks like the right death record.
I would guess at his age he would be in the military in 1939, so not on the register
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 10:59 GMT (UK)
Their father, Thomas William Clements (died 1947) left a will. That might mention children
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: softly softly on Monday 17 March 25 11:06 GMT (UK)
Whilst Charles was only recorded as Charles at birth (28.1.1913) could he have adopted second Christian name Thomas later life as there is a death with same dob in 1979 in Stepney

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Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 11:16 GMT (UK)
 I have a lot of examples of people in my tree, registered / baptised with a singe forename and adding a middle name later. I have a brother and sister, where the boy added their father's name and the girl added their mother's name. So for Charles to add his father's name is quite possible.
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: softly softly on Monday 17 March 25 11:18 GMT (UK)
I posted because there’s no Charles Thomas born 1913.

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Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 11:20 GMT (UK)
Charles baptism to same parent on Ancestry born 28 Jan 1913, Baptism 18 Feb 1913

Two down - one to go !
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 11:21 GMT (UK)
Beatrice baptism record has birth 22 Nov 1908, baptism Date   16 Dec 1908
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 11:28 GMT (UK)
Possible for Charles in West Ham in 1939.

check who else is in the household - think we might have found Beatrice
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: LizzieL on Monday 17 March 25 11:32 GMT (UK)
Looks like Beatrice died as Beatrice Vaughan, Havering district 1980.

And there is a child on 1939 register

Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: softly softly on Monday 17 March 25 14:07 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: neelawson on Monday 17 March 25 14:51 GMT (UK)
Looks like Beatrice died as Beatrice Vaughan, Havering district 1980.

And there is a child on 1939 register

I have an undated photo of Beatrice with a man and a child (abut 11y0?) and the back of it says 'George, Kenneth and Beatrice', are those the names? What address are they at?
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: neelawson on Monday 17 March 25 14:57 GMT (UK)
Possible for Charles in West Ham in 1939.

I've found a photo of him with the address 33 Wellington Road, Forest Gate S7 London, is that in West Ham. Looks like he's in his 20s maybe
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: softly softly on Monday 17 March 25 15:02 GMT (UK)
George and Beatrice marriage

Marriages Jun 1935   
Vaughan    George J T    Clements    W.Ham    4a   745

The son who appears in 1939 has a dob of 1929, so possibly not Beatrices son.

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added--possible marriage

Name   Kenneth S Vaughan
Registration Date   Oct 1950
[Nov 1950]
[Dec 1950]
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District   West Ham
Inferred County   Essex
Spouse   
Luara M Dunkley
Volume Number   5a
Page number   1133

4 Vaughan/Dunkley births 1951-66
Title: Re: 'Lost' aunt and uncles
Post by: softly softly on Monday 17 March 25 15:17 GMT (UK)
Death  this matches dob in 1939 war register.


Name   Kenneth Stanley Vaughan
Death Age   43
Birth Date   11 Aug 1929
Registration Date   Jul 1973
[Aug 1973]
[Sep 1973]
Registration Quarter   Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration District   Colchester
Inferred County   Essex
Volume   4a
Page   1727

Believe he is Beatrice's son born before her marriage

Births Sep 1929   

CLEMENTS    Kenneth S(Stanley)    Clements    Camberwell    1d   1041

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