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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: jane k on Saturday 15 March 25 11:24 GMT (UK)
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Apologies as this is complicated. We have an ancestor Benjamin Kerby who was born in Clerkenwell in 1783 but moved to Coventry - he was a watchmaker.
His father was Isaac Kerby (also watchmaker) born about 1746, lived and died in Clerkenwell. His parents were another Isaac Kerby and Martha Tubb also based in London,
My query is about different Benjamin Kerby who appears in Piggots Directory 1822 & 1825 as a watch and clockmaker in King Street Bristol. He also is in a death notice in the Bristol Mirror for 27/1/1829 for him saying he was in his 56th year - and describes him as Benj Kerby Senior. This would make him born about 1773. There is a possible marriage to Ann Lee in Bristol 13/5/1804.
(There`s also a Benjamin Kerby in prison in Bristol in 1811!)
I feel he must be related to us due to the spelling of his name (Kerby rather than the more common Kirby) and his profession of watchmaker. But I can`t find a birth for him or any other link.
Any help would be very much appreciated.
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The Benjamin who got 14 days for being drunk was 60 years old
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Had you checked "The Gazette"?
https://www.thegazette.co.uk/all-notices/notice?text=%22benjamin+kerby%22&categorycode-all=all¬icetypes=&location-postcode-1=&location-distance-1=1&location-local-authority-1=&numberOfLocationSearches=1&start-publish-date=&end-publish-date=&edition=&london-issue=&edinburgh-issue=&belfast-issue=&sort-by=&results-page-size=10
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Hi
There is a Will for a Sarah Kerby 1818 with a son Benjamin at Coleford.Sons John and Benjamin ,daughters Hannah ,Martha
Isaac Blanch Kerby watchmaker also Coleford 1840's before death 1851 Clerkenwell age 80 .
Maybe a clue there.
Ciderdrinker
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Is this him in the 1861 Census
Name Benjamin Kerby
Sex Male
Age 77 years
Birth Year (Estimated) 1784
Birthplace Clerkenwell, Middlesex
Residence Place Spon Street
Marital Status Widowed
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Event Type Census
Event Date 1861
Event Place St John the Baptist, Leamington, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom
Registration District Coventry
Household Identifier 2581230
Line Number 20
Page Number 14
Piece/Folio 2204 / 9
Registration Number RG09
Other People on This Record
Hannah Kerby F 27 years
Coventry, Warwickshire
Florence Brook F 17 years
Coventry, Warwickshire
Emily Brook F 9 years
Coventry, Warwickshire
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Previous generation at Bristol - Quakers
William Kerby and Sarah Bristol Gloucestershire
William born 7 May 1728
Mary born 1 March 1734
Thomas born 19 May 1741
Benjamin born 21 February 1743
I expect there are more children.
Try Somerset Quaker births
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Possibly again in 1851 census
Name Benjn Kerby
Sex Male
Age
Birth Year (Estimated) 1783
Birthplace Clerkenwell, London
Marital Status Married
Relationship to Head of Household Head
Event Type Census
Event Date 1851
Event Place St Michaels, Warwickshire, England
Line Number 7
Page Number 22
Piece/Folio 2067 / 500
Registration Number HO107
Benjn Kerby's Spouses and Children
Mary Ann Kerby
Daughter F 30 years
Coventry, Warwickshire
Martha Kerby
Daughter F 27 years
Coventry, Warwickshire
Mary Kerby
Wife F 67 years
Leicestershire
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Thanks for all of your efforts.
To clarify - I know pretty much everything about the Benjamin Kerby born 1783 who ended up in Coventry as he is our direct ancestor. But I can`t find anything about the Benjamin Kerby born about 1773 who was in Bristol.
I have seen the Will for Sarah Kerby mentioned above and it doesn`t involve the Bristol Benjamin.
I hadn`t known about the Quaker Kerbys and will try to investigate them
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Minutest of a connection
Edward Rosser Kerby died 1799 of Clerkenwell he states he is the son of Isaac and Sarah Kerby, has brothers, Isaac, Benjamin and John, sister Sarah Morgan of Coleford/Collford Gloucestershire* and sister Martha. His father is his executor.
His sister married and moved to Gloucestershire and his brother Benjamin went to Coventry.
Benjamin Kerby who married Mary Clark 29 September 1808 had a son Edward Rosser Kerby 1814
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Goggle search https://mb.nawcc.org/threads/coventry-apprentices-and-their-masters-1781-to-1806.208329/
Coventry Apprentices and Their Masters, 1781 to 1806.
(2557) Kerby, Benjamin, s. of John of Allesley, cordwainer,. to Mann & Wall of Coventry: watchmakers. 20 Apr 1790.
(2558) Kerby, Eli, s. of John of Alesley, cordwainer, to Man & Wall of Coventry, watchmaker: 31 Jan 1791.
Does Benjamin have a brother called Eli and is their father called John of Allesley???
Edit for information:
Allesley is a suburban village and civil parish in the City of Coventry
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FindMyPast Burial (transcript only) -
Benjamin Kerby, Bur 31 Dec 1837, Burial place St Nicholas, Bristol, Place (abode column?) Bristol.
These were the very early days of Civil Registration but was registered, GRO has -
Benjamin Kirby, Dec Qtr 1837, Reg Dist Bristol, vol 11 page 133c age 31 years.
Bristol Mercury, 30 Dec 1837
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Bristol Mercury, 30 Nov 1844
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The father and son can be found on the '41 Census under "Kirby"
Parish Burial FindMyPast (transcript only)
Joseph Benjamin Kirby, bur 1 Dec 1844, burial place Baptist Mills, place (abode?) - Baptist Mills
The death was registered with the GRO under "Kerby".
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FindMyPast baptisms (image/transcript)
Denomination Weslyan Methodist
Joseph Benjamin Kerby, born 29 Feb, bap 22 May 1825, parents Joseph and Elizabeth, abode St James (Bristol), father a watchmaker.
Nowt coming up to link positively to "your" Kerby.
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Ref: reply #10
Benjamin Kerby who died age 31 is the son of Benjamin and Ann Kerby (nee Lee)
He was born 15 March 1806 bap. 8 February 1809 the same day as his sister Elizabeth born October 1809, Bristol.
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Burials re the Quaker family.
Sarah widow of William died 20 August 1766
Sarah daughter of Sarah died 6 February 1765
Joseph son of William died 10 February 1759
William Kerby died 17 March 1768 - this has to be the son as his father William had died before 1766.
Probate of William 1768. on ancestry, late of London now of New Magna Somerset, all to brother Benjamin. If he has died then to his kinsman James Anson? of the parish of St Phillip and Jacob in Gloucestershire.
No wife or children mentioned.
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Thanks for all of your efforts - much appreciated.
It is looking more and more that the Bristol Kerbys are not connected to our Kerbys and the fact that they were both watchmakers is just a coincidence
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You're welcome.
Even spotted a Joseph Kerby watchmaker in Pontypool!! see column 3
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3393075/3393079/32/joseph%2BOR%2Bkerby
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You're welcome.
Even spotted a Joseph Kerby watchmaker in Pontypool!! see column 3
https://newspapers.library.wales/view/3393075/3393079/32/joseph%2BOR%2Bkerby
They get everywhere!!