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Title: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Thursday 13 March 25 16:03 GMT (UK)
Eleanor Davison Macnay
born 1904 New Brancepeth, Durham
parents Joseph Macnay and Eleanor Wilkinson

1911 census Eleanor is living with parents and siblings
21 Eshwood Street, New Brancepeth

1930 Eleanor marries John S Storey

I'm trying to find Eleanor on 1921 census - she is not with her family

Thankyou
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 13 March 25 16:13 GMT (UK)
Take a look at Nellie ‘Marnay’ aged 17 in Wakefield. Check the original!
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Thursday 13 March 25 16:19 GMT (UK)
WOW thankyou very much

Sarah Howe (nee Macnay) is Eleanor's aunt

I think in time I would have found her when I tried to find Sarah Macnay in 1921  :)
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Thursday 13 March 25 17:08 GMT (UK)
and in 1939???
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Thursday 13 March 25 18:52 GMT (UK)
She is with her husband at 'Brancepeth', Bigby Road, Brigg, Lincolnshire.

On FindMyPast her name is transcribed as Eleana Stone. The writing on the original is awful.

Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Thursday 13 March 25 19:38 GMT (UK)
thankyou jen - i wouldn't have found that be myself
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Friday 14 March 25 09:33 GMT (UK)
final query - when did Eleanor die?
1939 states dob as 14 January 1904
husband John Sidney Storey died 1980 Northallerton

don't think ancestry hints are my Eleanor:

Eleanor D Armstrong m John L Storey 1900 Tynemouth
John L Storey died 1940 Northumberland Central
Eleanor D Storey married Robert A Storey (John's brother)
Eleanor D Storey died 1949
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Friday 14 March 25 10:12 GMT (UK)
Eleanor D Armstrong m John L Storey 1900 Tynemouth
John L Storey died 1940 Northumberland Central
Eleanor D Storey married Robert A Storey (John's brother)
Eleanor D Storey died 1949

Eleanor Davison Armstrong was born in 1900.
Your Eleanor was born in 1904.

Can’t yet see her death  :-\
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 14 March 25 11:51 GMT (UK)
Eleanor D Armstrong m John L Storey 1900 Tynemouth
John L Storey died 1940 Northumberland Central
Eleanor D Storey married Robert A Storey (John's brother)
Eleanor D Storey died 1949

Eleanor Davison Armstrong was born in 1900.
Your Eleanor was born in 1904.

Can’t yet see her death  :-\

Eleanor & John married 1930
Eleanor & Robert married 1943
Do you have either marriage certificate?
Was there an age given?

STOREY, ELEANOR  DAVISON   age 49
GRO Reference: 1949  J Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE  Volume 01B  Page 137   

Probate 10 Oct 1949
Eleanor Davison Storey of 21 Ravensworth Street Bedlington Station Northumberland
(wife of Robert Alexander Storey
), she died 9 June 1949 at The Royal Victoria Infirmary
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Friday 14 March 25 12:00 GMT (UK)
this is the hint in my tree but it is for Eleanor Davison Armstrong not my Eleanor Davison Macnay - thankyou

Eleanor D Armstrong m John L Storey 1900 Tynemouth
John L Storey died 1940 Northumberland Central
Eleanor D Storey married Robert A Storey (John's brother)
Eleanor D Storey died 1949
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 14 March 25 12:07 GMT (UK)

Eleanor D Armstrong m John L Storey 1900 Tynemouth


They married in 1920 Morpeth and can be found together in Northumberland in 1921  & 1939
(Eleanor D born 28 Nov 1899) (John L born 25 Nov 1900)
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Friday 14 March 25 12:14 GMT (UK)
Eleanor Davison Macnay m John Sidney Storey

Eleanor Davison Armstrong m John Langlands Storey and Robert Alexander Storey (brothers)

My relation is Eleanor Davison Macnay - I have her in all census - looking for her death registration

thankyou
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 14 March 25 12:17 GMT (UK)

STOREY, ELEANOR  DAVISON   age 49
GRO Reference: 1949  J Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE  Volume 01B  Page 137   

Probate 10 Oct 1949
Eleanor Davison Storey of 21 Ravensworth Street Bedlington Station Northumberland
(wife of Robert Alexander Storey
), she died 9 June 1949 at The Royal Victoria Infirmary

I thought the 1949 was her death entry as her husband is named Robert Alexander Storey on the probate record


Edit to add

Eleanor Davison Macnay m John Sidney Storey

Eleanor Davison Armstrong m John Langlands Storey and Robert Alexander Storey (brothers)

My relation is Eleanor Davison Macnay - I have her in all census - looking for her death registration



Sorry got mixed up thought that John Sidney Storey was the brother of Robert Alexander Storey  ???
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 14 March 25 12:24 GMT (UK)

Eleanor Davison Armstrong m John Langlands Storey and Robert Alexander Storey (brothers)


For info.

STOREY, JOHN  LANGLANDS     died age 39 
GRO Reference: 1940  J Quarter in NORTHUMBERLAND CENTRAL  Volume 10B  Page 761

Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Friday 14 March 25 12:29 GMT (UK)

Eleanor D Armstrong m John L Storey 1900 Tynemouth


They married in 1920 Morpeth and can be found together in Northumberland in 1921  & 1939
(Eleanor D born 28 Nov 1899) (John L born 25 Nov 1900)

This isn't the right couple. Eleanor Davison Macnay was born in 1904.

Please see my reply #4 - Eleanor D. Storey born 1904 and her husband John Sidney Storey were in Brigg Lincolnshire in 1939.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Friday 14 March 25 12:32 GMT (UK)
 :)
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 14 March 25 12:37 GMT (UK)
durhamgirl73

Do you have a death for John Sidney Storey? Could this be your Eleanor & John?

John S Story
Arrival age 46
Eleanor D Story
Arrival Age 46
Port of Departure Port Said, Egypt
Arrival Date   25 Jun 1950
Port of Arrival   Liverpool, England
Ship Name   Empress of Australia
Address in UK C/o Welfare House, Westerhope, Newcastle on Tyne
UK and Ireland, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Friday 14 March 25 12:43 GMT (UK)
possibly

John Sidney Storey
1980 JAS Northallerton 2 2055
dob 15 Aug 1903 matches dob on 1939 census in Lincolnshire
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 14 March 25 13:36 GMT (UK)
His name seems to be Story on birth, marriage and death, rather than Storey.
Probate for him too, a will, might be worth getting?
John Sidney Story
21 Greenacre Close Great Ayton Middlesbrough
Died 16 August 1980
Probate 9 September (1980) at Newcastle upon Tyne
£2973
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 14 March 25 13:49 GMT (UK)
possibly

John Sidney Storey
1980 JAS Northallerton 2 2055
dob 15 Aug 1903 matches dob on 1939 census in Lincolnshire

His name seems to be Story on birth, marriage and death, rather than Storey.

Probate for him too, a will, might be worth getting?

John Sidney Story
21 Greenacre Close Great Ayton Middlesbrough Died 16 August 1980
Probate 9 September (1980) at Newcastle upon Tyne
£2973

There's another record

John Sidney Story dob 15 Aug 1903, civil servant
Departure Date   20 Jul 1959
Departure Port   England
Ship Name   Jutlandia
Destination Port   Aden, Yemen
E Story born 31 5 1900, housewife - address 10 Denhill Park, Newcastle Upon Tyne

Her death entry
E STORY Birth  31 May 1900
Registration Date   Jun 1980
Registration District   Northallerton
Inferred County   North Yorkshire
Volume   2 Page   2264

They are on Electoral Register

John Sidney Story
Residence Dates   1968/69/70/71
Residence Street Address   21 Greenacre Close
Residence Place   Great Ayton, North Riding, England
Parliamentary Division   Richmond Constituency
Volume Number   RERC/1968
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Friday 14 March 25 14:03 GMT (UK)
Quote
Her death entry
E STORY Birth  31 May 1900
Registration Date   Jun 1980
Registration District   Northallerton
Inferred County   North Yorkshire
Volume   2 Page   2264

That was an Edith Story, not Eleanor. Eleanor was born in 1904.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 14 March 25 14:13 GMT (UK)
Edith Danskin married James H Story in Newcastle in 1925.
1939 free index at 1 Front Street, Bells Close, Newcastle upon Tyne.
James Hedworth Story died in 1951.

I think John Sidney Story and James Hedworth Story were brothers.

We may have lost Eleanor between 1950 and 1959?

Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Friday 14 March 25 15:28 GMT (UK)

Edith Danskin married James H Story in Newcastle in 1925.
1939 free index at 1 Front Street, Bells Close, Newcastle upon Tyne.

James Hedworth Story died in 1951.

I think John Sidney Story and James Hedworth Story were brothers.

We may have lost Eleanor between 1950 and 1959?

Could this be a possibility ??? Shame there's only initials and no age - perhaps the address will rule her out
   
Mrs E D Storey, housewife
Departure Date   7 May 1954
Departure Port   England
Ship Name   Durban Castle
Destination Port   Gibraltar
Address Brainham Moor, Tylers Green, Buckfield, Sussex
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: jonwarrn on Friday 14 March 25 17:18 GMT (UK)
Hi
I think that one is Edna Dorothy Storey, who was off to India in 1951 from same address.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Saturday 15 March 25 13:41 GMT (UK)
I have to admit to being mystified with this one.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 15 March 25 14:03 GMT (UK)
We all seem to be stumped, Jen.
James and Edith Story and their son Norman seem to be living with his parents in 1939.
Edith born 31 May 00
For some reason her name was altered to Storey at some point. And was that then cancelled, since it is crossed out in green ink? I can't make sense of that.

Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: jonwarrn on Saturday 15 March 25 18:32 GMT (UK)
Hopefully durhamgirl73 will come back and tell us what she thinks of things as they now stand.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: Ladyhawk on Sunday 16 March 25 15:05 GMT (UK)

I have to admit to being mystified with this one.


We all seem to be stumped, Jen.

James and Edith Story and their son Norman seem to be living with his parents in 1939.

Edith born 31 May 00  For some reason her name was altered to Storey at some point. And was that then cancelled, since it is crossed out in green ink? I can't make sense of that.


I agree with you both ???


James Hedworth Story died in 1951.

I think John Sidney Story and James Hedworth Story were brothers.

We may have lost Eleanor between 1950 and 1959?


I agree they are brothers 1911 census John Sidney  & James Hedworth Story with their parents & siblings in West Denton, Northumberland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMG-NHG?lang=en

There doesn't appear to be a marriage entry for John S & Edith after the death of her husband in 1951

I've looked at FreeBMD for a death between 1950 - 1959 with just first name Eleanor & initial D in case she was using a different surname but nothing stands out  :-\

There is a marriage entry 1958 Nthmbld for a E Story to T L B Carmichael  :-\ but have not looked further into this couple


Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 16 March 25 15:27 GMT (UK)
John Sidney Story dob 15 Aug 1903, civil servant
Departure Date   20 Jul 1959
Departure Port   England
Ship Name   Jutlandia
Destination Port   Aden, Yemen
E Story born 31 5 1900, housewife - address 10 Denhill Park, Newcastle Upon Tyne

Looking at that outward passenger record
Country of last permanent residence (Residence for more than 12 months)
For John Sidney and Edith Story it says N. Ireland

So could Eleanor have died in Northern Ireland? And could even John have remarried to Edith there?

I can't find anything definite, but there is a short newspaper report, age is right, but maybe a coincidence? :-\

Belfast Telegraph, 2 July 1955
Suicide verdict on woman
A VERDICT of suicide by gas poisoning was returned by the Coroner, Dr. H. Baird, at an inquest in Glengormley yesterday on Mrs. Eleanor Storey (51) of Farmley Crescent, Glengormiey.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Sunday 16 March 25 15:45 GMT (UK)
I’ve been looking at that Northern Ireland connection too.
The date on the alteration to Edith’s record in the 1939 register was 1956. Marriage to John? It’s marked m/c for marriage certificate?

GRONI is unavailable until tomorrow morning  >:(
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Sunday 16 March 25 16:11 GMT (UK)
Thankyou for all your hard work  :)

I was actually told a story years ago that Nelly did/tried to kill herself (gas) so the newspaper article could be related to her? I think this was because her husband died and she was heartbroken? Did John die before 1955? Was it to do with the war?
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Sunday 16 March 25 16:31 GMT (UK)
Did John die before 1955? Was it to do with the war?

Have you read all the replies relating to John? Reply #19 has details of him in 1959 and in the 1970’s ( with Edith)

I think we are fairly confident that John died in 1980 as per your reply #17.



Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Sunday 16 March 25 16:40 GMT (UK)
Just for information:

Edith died on 16th May 1980 and John on the 16th August 1980.

They have identically worded entries in the Teesside Crematorium Book of Remembrance.
https://teesside.alwaysloved.xyz/book?day=16&month=may
https://teesside.alwaysloved.xyz/book?day=16&month=aug

In both cases you need to click through a couple of pages to find the entries.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: hgs46 on Monday 17 March 25 00:12 GMT (UK)
Is it worth trying ‘Eleanor Davison at Muggleswick, Lanchester, Durham, England in 1921? A longshot.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Monday 17 March 25 08:07 GMT (UK)
1921 Nellie Macnay visiting the Howe family (Sarah is her auntie)
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Monday 17 March 25 08:36 GMT (UK)
Is it worth trying ‘Eleanor Davison at Muggleswick, Lanchester, Durham, England in 1921? A longshot.

Please see replies #1 and 2  :)
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 29 March 25 16:49 GMT (UK)
is anyone able to check on northern ireland records if there is a death for Eleanor Storey so i can buy her death certificate?

thankyou
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Saturday 29 March 25 17:12 GMT (UK)
You can check and order here https://geni.nidirect.gov.uk/
You will have to buy credits.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Saturday 29 March 25 17:36 GMT (UK)
Note that her surname appears there as Story, not Storey.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Saturday 29 March 25 17:50 GMT (UK)
thankyou
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Tuesday 01 April 25 11:36 BST (UK)
death certificate ordered

is anyone able to find the marriage for :

John Sidney Storey and Edith Storey (nee Danskin)

possibly c1955 Northern Ireland?

thankyou
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 01 April 25 12:23 BST (UK)
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is anyone able to find the marriage for :

John Sidney Storey and Edith Storey (nee Danskin)

possibly c1955 Northern Ireland?

There is a 75 year closure on searching online for marriage records  in Northern Ireland, see 'Before You Start' here https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/services/go-groni-online 

The only option is a personal search, or ordering if you know the date.
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: durhamgirl73 on Tuesday 01 April 25 14:01 BST (UK)
ok thankyou
Title: Re: Where is Eleanor in 1921?
Post by: JenB on Tuesday 01 April 25 14:07 BST (UK)
Of course they could have married elsewhere than NI, but there is no sign of a marriage in the rest of the UK.