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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Glamorganshire => Topic started by: ashtayl04 on Wednesday 12 March 25 13:43 GMT (UK)
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Hello Everyone, i’ve bumped into a issue that’s created a mountain,
So the person in question is Annie Elizabeth King, born 1881 in Llangeinor, Glamorgan and Died in 1911 in Ogmore Vale, Glamorgan,
Annie Elizabeth married Frank Wareham 1878-1958 in Apr 1900
The only census with Annie on pre marriage i found in Llangeinor stated that her parents were William & Caroline king (mmn Powell)
The only birth for the surrounding area has the mmn Powell
In Annie E’s Orbituary, it states that she had Thomas, Charles, Gertrude and Gladys & Albert King as Siblings that attended her funeral
However, all of those children have the mmn as “Stock”, and on the census they’re father is shown as John King not William King, and mother was Mary Ann Stock!
Even more confusing, Mary Ann Stock was a wareham prior to marrying John King, and married Thomas Wareham, and than married John king afterwards,
So no explanation of Annie king’s parents or how the other kids are related to her?
Can anyone help?
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Newspapers have been known to get things wrong. possibly that clutch of children are Annie Elizabeth's cousins.
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William King (Annie E's father ) has a brother John living with the family in 1891. Could he be the John King who married Mary Ann Wareham nee Stock? Are her late husband Thomas Wareham and Frank Wareham related? Big co-incidence it they're not.
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Can I clarify your pre marriage census find, please? You name William and Caroline.
I have Ann E King, 10, born Ogmore Vale, with a John and Caroline King at Llangeinor 1n1891.
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I also found her in 1881 with same parents in same place. age 4 months
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Looks like Frank Wareham is the son of Henry Wareham and his 3rd wife Matilda Willcox. Henry seems to have married a Miss Dowling (not found marriage yet) and had a son Charles in 1851. Then married Mary Ponton / Ponting on 05 Jul 1852. One of their sons was Henry Thomas who is about the same age as Thomas Wareham who married Mary Ann Stock. 2nd wife died and Henry married Matilda Willcox. If Thomas is actually Henry Thomas then he is Frank Wareham's half brother.
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Henry's first wife Eliza Dowling married 1850 Wells district
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18 Mar 1850 Chewton Mendip. Henry's father was Nathaniel , same as on marriage to Matilda Willcox so confirms same chap
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Henry bapt 03 Aug 1828, Fontmell Dorset s/o Nathanial and Sophia. Fontmell or its variants is pob on various censuses
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when Lizzie Wareham died in 1918 she's described in the funeral report as "beloved daughter" of Mr and Mrs King (John and Mary nee Stock, judging by the siblings listed in the report). Frank Wareham is listed as her uncle, along with a Jack Wareham
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I'm having trouble finding Ann E King and family on 1891
William and John King are clearly brothers. William vanishes on censuses for me until 1921, when suddenly he's back, living in the same street as other family members. Listed as single, but that might be an error as he's a boarder. If John King adopted Ann, in a manner, she would be a sort of step sister to the Wareham and King children of Mary Stock. She then married the former brother in law of her step mother
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I think you might possibly be correct about the William/John error in terms of them being Sibling’s, the apparent siblings of Annie Elizabeth King (i.e) John King’s children don’t coincide together date wise, with them being born close to the early 1900s, William king would have already been well into his fifties
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Elizabeth Wareham B.1889 daughter of Mary Ann Stock, might have changed her name to King?
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Elizabeth Wareham B.1889 daughter of Mary Ann Stock, might have changed her name to King?
No, she and her Wareham siblings retain their surname after Mary Ann marries John King. They can be seen on 1901 and 1911 with mother and step father. As I posted above, she's reported as Lizzie Wareham, daughter of Mr and Mrs King, when she dies