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Title: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: katerimmer on Wednesday 14 September 05 14:20 BST (UK)
I am searching through the 1841 Lancashire census on Stepping Stones for my partner's ancestors. I have found some of them in piece 501 at Woodplumpton, Inskip and Sowerby without too much trouble, but where will I find Myerscough? On the map it looks very close to those villages, but I can't see it listed for any of the piece numbers that Stepping Stones have put online yet. I'm just wondering if it is there but listed under another village, or if I have to wait? I tried google and it came up with piece 558, but that seems to be around the city of Lancaster - surely Myerscough didn't really come into that piece, did it? Kate.
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: sjsbc on Wednesday 14 September 05 18:55 BST (UK)
Hi,

HO 107/554 PARISH: Lancaster (part), TOWNSHIP: Bleasdale, Fulwood, Myerscough, Preesall with Hackensall, Stalmine with Staynal

Using the National Archives catalogue to locat Parishes is easy.  On the search screen type the parish in the first box and the year range as 1841 to 1841 (or whatever you need).

http://www.catalogue.nationalarchives.gov.uk/default.asp?j=1

With the census records you then have the piece, but sometimes have to scan through each enumeration district until you find the correct bit.

Happy hunting

Sue
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: katerimmer on Wednesday 14 September 05 23:25 BST (UK)
Thanks, I already saw that, but I was just wondering if there could be two places called Myerscough because I still don't see what it would be doing in that piece!
Kate.
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: jinks on Wednesday 14 September 05 23:29 BST (UK)
I know of at least two Myerscoughs in
Lancashire.

One near Mellor, Balderstone, Osbaldeston.

And the other near Barton, Broughton, Whitechapel
(North of Preston)

Jinks
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: sjsbc on Thursday 15 September 05 01:06 BST (UK)
I tried google and it came up with piece 558, but that seems to be around the city of Lancaster

Hi Kate,

The piece you quoted was 558.  The National Archives only gives the one result, HO 107/554 for Myerscough.

I don't know what the reference is for the other one that Jinks found.   Maybe it is just too small to be indexed separately?  Perhaps you could try one of the nearby parishes he gives and see if you can come across it.

Sue
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: jinks on Thursday 15 September 05 01:14 BST (UK)
Dont know if this helps but Myerscough near
Mellor, Mellor Brook etc in situated roughly on the
A59. prounouned Mires cough

The other one I know about is just off the main
road from Preston to Lancaster. (see Myerscough
College)pronounced mires co

Jinks
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: mosiefish on Thursday 15 September 05 14:57 BST (UK)
Hi,

The explaination is that Mysercough was a Township in the PARISH of Lancaster. So even though it was virtually 'next door' to Inskip and Woodplumton (both in the Parish of St. Michaels),  it was in a different Parish and hence on a completely different part of the census.

Does this make sense?

Regards,

Mo
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: katerimmer on Saturday 17 September 05 18:03 BST (UK)
Thanks very much Mo.  I'll just have to wait for Stepping Stones to make that one available.
Kate.
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: sjsbc on Monday 19 September 05 16:50 BST (UK)
Hi,

You could always try posting a lookup for the 1841 on Rootschat.  There may be someone here who has that elusive bit of information for you.  Don't forget to include as many details as possible about the family you are trying to find.

Good luck

Sue
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: katerimmer on Sunday 25 September 05 10:46 BST (UK)
No, don't worry sjsbc, I think I can wait for STepping Stones.  It would take all the fun out of it!  Thanks anyway,
Kate.
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: Rosemarie on Friday 30 September 05 14:45 BST (UK)
I emailed the stepping-stones support team from the link of their web site when I had a query and found tyhem extremely helpful - if you think you've located the film you want they may be able to tell you when it will be available.

R

Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: katerimmer on Sunday 02 October 05 23:35 BST (UK)
Thanks Rosemarie.  It's there now and I've managed to look up the family I wanted.
Kate.
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: Rosemarie on Monday 03 October 05 00:21 BST (UK)
Hi Kate

Glad you found what/who you were looking for. My results on the Stepping-stones site exceeded expectations and it was great to see the actual pages with the information I'd been searching for for so long.

R.

PS Seemed to be Rimmers on every page in the area I was searching - Altcar, Ince Blundell etc.
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: big g on Monday 03 October 05 08:39 BST (UK)
I have also been searching the Altcar/Formby pages, looking for Dickinsons - they are everywhere.  Each family appears to use the same christian names for their children !!!!
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: jkitchin on Sunday 23 October 05 12:58 BST (UK)
Big G

I am also searching for Dickinson/Dickenson in this area. My ancestor is Alice Dickenson born about 1821 in Lydiate who married James Lowe in 1843 - any connection? Even if not if you come across her I would be grateful if you could let me know
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: big g on Sunday 23 October 05 16:13 BST (UK)
jkitchin.

Re Dickinson family - my husbands tree -

I have only got back, with certainty ,to Joseph Dickinson born 1841 Formby.  His parents were Peter and Catherine Dickinson, both born circa 1815 Formby.
However the Dickinson branches were all over Formby and Altcar, so maybe connected to Lydiate also!!
Will keep in touch.
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: gillian lewis on Friday 04 November 05 13:57 GMT (UK)
my family of dickinsons were from lancashire ince Peter Dickinson  b 1835, this was my g g g grandfather, Peter was married to Martha ?
On the 1901 Census it shows them as living a 1 Grainger street Wingate county durham.  By this time he was registered as disabled, and they had 4 children.  If any relation please reply
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: Rosemarie on Friday 04 November 05 18:19 GMT (UK)
Hi

I assume that by 'Ince' You meant Ince Blundell but the only Dickinsons in Ince Blundell in 1841 were:


John aged 13 (I think!) who was working for James Atherton, Farmer.

John, aged 15 who was working for Christ. Houghton, Farmer

Marie.
Title: Re: Help with 1841 census please
Post by: Rosemarie on Friday 04 November 05 18:35 GMT (UK)
Hi

Not sure you want this but may as well send now I've looked it up, just in case. Had a look at 1851 and think you probably meant Ince near Wigan which I think is Ince in Makerfield.

Is this your Dickinson family in 1851? All born Ince. All children 'umarried'

Peter,52,Carter
Sarah,50
William,28,Labourer,Colliery
Ann,23
Samuel,21,Coal miner
Peter,16,Coal miner
George,13,Coal miner
Ellen,13
Henry,2,Gd.son

Marie.

PS Don't have 1841 for Ince in Makerfield