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Title: lillian A. Adams
Post by: samantha74 on Sunday 09 March 25 21:21 GMT (UK)
hi

hoping someone can help me
i am trying to find when Lillian arrived in SA,
i know she was born c1885 England. parents Ellen Rebecca carpenter and James Adams.
she first married Leonard Rodda July 1906 Moonta  SA, then married Richard gilbert aug 1911 moonta sa.
she died 15 july 1918 Broken hill NSW
thanks
sam
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 09 March 25 22:15 GMT (UK)
Is she the Lilian Adam’s in Chelsea in 1891 age 7 born Fulham
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 09 March 25 22:19 GMT (UK)

she died 15 july 1918 Broken hill NSW
 
sam

Neither of her parents names match on this death.

NSW Death
GILBERT LILIAN A
12005/1918
Father EDWARD
Mother ANNIE
At BROKEN HILL

Sue
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 09 March 25 22:23 GMT (UK)
Is she the Lilian Adam’s in Chelsea in 1891 age 7 born Fulham

Birth registration is 4qtr 1883 mothers maiden surname Carpenter


Her mother was previously married to Charles Gahargan
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: sparrett on Sunday 09 March 25 22:38 GMT (UK)
Leonard died Nov 1910. Wife and 2 children.
 Consumption.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/274941300

I see four children's births listed with Leonard as father. Between 1906 and 1910
https://www.genealogysa.org.au/resources/online-database-search

Sue
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 09 March 25 22:43 GMT (UK)
If she is the Fulham Lillian she was with her parents in 1901 but not on the next census
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: jorose on Monday 10 March 25 07:37 GMT (UK)
Do you have her death certificate from NSW? If so can you please list all that information. If not you should purchase a copy.

If the "Ellen Rebecca carpenter and James Adams." information comes from finding a birth in England, that seems to match, and not from a record in Australia, be very careful that you don't end up chasing a red herring.

The Lilian A found in London I think was still around there as a servant in 1911.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XW2B-53L?lang=en
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: Dundee on Monday 10 March 25 12:13 GMT (UK)
Both of Lillian's marriages give her father's name as James ADAMS.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: samantha74 on Tuesday 11 March 25 09:06 GMT (UK)
i dont recall where i got her parents names from, i have NSW death transcript, but beleive the parents info is incorrect, the informat on death certificate was not related
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: Dundee on Tuesday 11 March 25 10:02 GMT (UK)
What is her mother's maiden surname on the death cert?

I don't think that she was the daughter of James and Ellen nee CARPENTER.  Lillian Annie married George KNIGHT in 1918 and in 1939 they have her sister Florence Mary ADAMS living with them in Willesden.  Florence's date of birth given then matches the date on her baptism.  In 1911 Florence was living with her parents in Kensington, and in 1921 with her widowed father in Kensington.  The address is the same as Lillian's marriage cert.

I know that you are looking for an immigration record, but there are scenarios where she may have arrived under a different name so you need to first establish who she actually was.

Debra  :)
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: samantha74 on Wednesday 12 March 25 09:32 GMT (UK)
it appears i am chasing the wrong lillian Adams, i know the marriages are correct and the death, but appears the birth and parents are wrong
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 12 March 25 09:39 GMT (UK)
Even though you believe the information on the death certificate is wrong could you please tell us what it says about her parents.
Title: Re: lillian A. Adams
Post by: samantha74 on Wednesday 12 March 25 09:45 GMT (UK)
on death certificate  states father Edward Adams.  occupation Teamster, mother Annie surname not stated.
died aged 34 born Adelaide, SA, aged at first marriage 20 (1906 moonta), age at second marriage 27 (1911 moonta) . the informat was joseph Watters, no relation