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Title: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: angle73 on Wednesday 19 February 25 15:00 GMT (UK)
I am having difficulty finding baptism of John Lahey/Lahay/Leahy born in Middlesbrough between 1867-1869 son of Jeremiah and Ellen.
 Some of his siblings were baptised at the Old Roman Catholic Cathedral in Middlesbrough but I can't find his baptism. Any help would be appreciated. thank you
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 19 February 25 15:10 GMT (UK)
Is this his birth - June qtr 1868   
LAHEY    John
Mothers maiden surname Currigan
Stockton    10a   72
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: angle73 on Wednesday 19 February 25 15:17 GMT (UK)
Hi Rosie, Ellen's maiden name was Gurran but it could have been misspelt, I will certainly look into it .
 Leahy is spelt so many different ways it's difficult to trace through that way. Thank You for your prompt reply
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 19 February 25 15:27 GMT (UK)
There is a marriage for Jeremiah Lahey and Ellen Gurran in 1874 -several years after John’s birth.
Do you have the family in 1871?
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: angle73 on Wednesday 19 February 25 15:32 GMT (UK)
yes, 1871 census shows Jeremiah and Ellen living with John and Catherine Leahey, what's confusing is that they both had sons named John born within a year of each other. thank you for your reply
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: heywood on Wednesday 19 February 25 15:57 GMT (UK)
I can see births to 1871 now - perhaps John  and Catherine’s children with mother Lally/Lully

There are these:
1868, John Lahey, mother Currigan
1869, Thomas Lahy, mother Gordon
1870. Mary Lahey - mother Gordan

Could these be the same family?

Then there is a Patrick and Margaret Leahy with their son John, 2 yrs.

Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: angle73 on Wednesday 19 February 25 16:10 GMT (UK)
it's so confusing isn't it, it's Jeremiah & Ellen's son John whose baptism I'm looking for. The family were Roman Catholic, I have found John's brother Jeremiah baptism at the old roman catholic cathedral in middlesbrough but can't find John's. I found John's marriage to Mary Hagan in 1896 at the old cathedral which confirmed his father was Jeremiah, I just can't find his baptism. Thank you for your time
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: Wexflyer on Thursday 20 February 25 00:54 GMT (UK)
OP - have you considered that Jeremiah might easily appear as Darby, or Diarmaid (and variations).
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: angle73 on Thursday 20 February 25 10:39 GMT (UK)
No I haven't heard those names for Jeremiah, thank you for the information
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 20 February 25 10:46 GMT (UK)
I am having difficulty finding baptism of John Lahey/Lahay/Leahy born in Middlesbrough between 1867-1869 son of Jeremiah and Ellen.
 Some of his siblings were baptised at the Old Roman Catholic Cathedral in Middlesbrough but I can't find his baptism. Any help would be appreciated. thank you

Googling it appears that the Cathedral was not built around the time he was born  :-\
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: angle73 on Thursday 20 February 25 10:58 GMT (UK)
The old cathedral was in Sussex Street Middlesbrough when that closed ( not sure of the date) a new cathedral was built in Coulby Newham on the outskirts of the town. My ancestors were definatley baptised in the old cathedral.
The old cathedral ceased being used in the late 1970's and burnt down May 2000. The new cathedral opened in the 1980's.

Thank you for your interest
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: heywood on Thursday 20 February 25 13:18 GMT (UK)
Find my Past has Middlesbrough diocesan records
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/blog/new/findmypast-friday-january-18th-2019

I can see these with father Jeremiah in the indexes - Middlesbrough Old Cathedral
Jeremia, 1872
Margarita, 1876
Sarah, 1875
The records are probably in Latin.

I know that Jeremiah and Ellen were together in 1871 but they married later.
They may not have lived in that parish when John was born, or John may have been baptised in Ellen’s surname but I can’t see anything likely.

It might be worth getting that found birth record to see if it is John and check the address.
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: heywood on Thursday 20 February 25 13:23 GMT (UK)
Forgot to post this
There is
Joannes (latin)  Leahy with father, John, baptised 1868
Joannes Leathy with father Patrick baptised 1868
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: angle73 on Thursday 20 February 25 14:34 GMT (UK)
thank you heyward, i'll check the one with father patrick as this could be confirmation name
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: heywood on Thursday 20 February 25 14:42 GMT (UK)
Reply #5, I mention Patrick and Margaret also with a son, John.
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: heywood on Thursday 20 February 25 14:48 GMT (UK)
Is this his birth - June qtr 1868   
LAHEY    John
Mothers maiden surname Currigan
Stockton    10a   72

Just checking again, and there is a tree with parents John Lahey and Catherine Kerrigan.
I would think this is this John’s birth.
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: angle73 on Thursday 20 February 25 15:06 GMT (UK)
my John's parents were Jeremiah & Ellen(Gurran) but thank you
Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: heywood on Thursday 20 February 25 16:29 GMT (UK)
To add to the baptismal indexes…
1870 Maria Lenhy - father Jeremiah Old Cathedral

Title: Re: John Lahey/Leahy
Post by: heywood on Thursday 20 February 25 16:30 GMT (UK)
my John's parents were Jeremiah & Ellen(Gurran) but thank you

Yes I know and earlier we thought that the birth with mother Currigan may have been an error.
That means, I think, that there is no civil birth record - is that right?