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Sorry, it;s such a common name, but I've lost Mary Brown.
Mary Brown b Keighley. Yorkshire 1866. One of six children born to Anthony Thomas and Sarah Brown. The family were in Halifax by 1870.
Everyone else is accounted for, including Anthony's second wife and their daughter.
Can you help me find Mary, please?
Many thanks.
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Which census did you last have her on, please give details and reference
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Is Ann Brown, Anthony’s second wife who is with the children in 1881 4422/76/8 ?
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Living at Boothtown Road, Halifax. With stepmother and siblings
1881 4420 4424 0517 WRYRG11
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Not shown as stepmother - Ann is shown as a widow & children shown as her sons & daughters.
No details in your post re name of Anthony's second wife or when they married - or when Anthony died
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That is the family.
As I'm only looking for Mary I didn't think it relevant to post details of the whole family.
I have all the others followed through to their deaths - except Mary.
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You mentioned that ‘the family were in Halifax by 1870’ and then the ‘second wife and daughter’.
You didn’t give any further details re the family to help research.
That is why I asked if that was the family in 1881 as neither of the parents’ names matched in that census. We now know they were both deceased.
Have you checked any possible deaths or marriages between 1881 and 1891.
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Thank you. I guess because I know the family it all seemed straight forward to me.
Here is the reference to the 1871 census: WRYRG10 4392 4395 0567
Sarah died in 1875, Anthony in 1880.
Eliza is the daughter of Anthony and Ann - so a half sister to the others.
I have checked marriages and deaths up to 1891, but of course may have missed something.
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It would be easier for us if you posted the information from those census :)
ADDED
1881 Boothtown Road
Ann Brown Widow 42 bn Keighley, Yorkshire
John W Brown Son 20 bn Keighley, Yorkshire
Alice Brown 18 bn Keighley
Mary Brown 15 bn Keighley
Jane Brown 12 bn Keighley
Smith Brown 10 bn Halifax
Harry Brown 8 bn Halifax
Eliza Brown 5 bn Halifax
RG11
Piece 4422
Folio 76
Page 8
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1871 - 7, Albert Street, Halifax
Anthony Thos Brown 33 occ Mechanic bn Skipton, Yorkshire
Sarah 31 bn Fouldridge, Yorkshire
John Wm Brown 10 bn Keighley, Yorkshire
Alice 8 bn Keighley, Yorkshire
Mary 5 bn Keighley, Yorkshire
Jane 3 bn Keighley, Yorkshire
Smith Brown 9 months bn Halifax, Yorkshire
RG10
Piece 4395
Folio 21
Page 36
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Have you checked this marriage?
1889 Halifax
Fred Bates Hanson and Mary Brown
In 1891, Mary Hanson is born 1866, Keighley.
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Marriages Sep 1889
BROWN Mary
HANSON Fred Bates
Halifax 9a 827
They are living in Northowram in 1891
Beat me to it Heywood :)
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Daughter ?
HANSON, LILLY mmn BROWN
GRO Reference: 1890 D Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 469
another possible dtr, she died the same qtr
HANSON, EVA mmn
GRO Reference: 1890 M Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 485
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There are possible deaths for Lilly too, i think.
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Think you've got it! Thank you.
Will pursue this lead - and report back. Can't type too much today. My hands are giving me a lot of trouble.
FS
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It does look like it is possibly Lily who is with them in 1891 who dies in 1892.
Husband Fred Bates Hanson dies in 1894 age 26 :-\
There is also a death in Dec qtr 1899 for a Mary Hanson age 34 which needs further investigation
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Can't type too much today. My hands are giving me a lot of trouble.
FS
I know that feeling, thank goodness for copy / paste ;D
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Just to add that I couldn't find Mary in 1901, nor a likely marriage.
Perhaps that death is her. All very sad for the young family.
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Just downloaded PDF from GRO (Ref: Mary Hanson - Deaths 1899 Halifax 9a 275)
Unfortunately, not a match. Back to the drawing board.
Thanks FS
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Do you mean it is not a match for Mary Hanson (Brown)?
Have you checked the. Hanson/Brown marriage?
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Burial of Mary Hanson, 29 November 1899, Brighouse Cemetery (consecrated part)
Age 34 years
Spinster
Abode 5 John Street
Image
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSJ8-19LZ-W
It's a pity Familysearch didn't look on FamilySearch :(
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A death announcement in the Halifax Courier and Guardian, 9 December 1899
HANSON—Nov. 27, aged 34, Mary Hanson, John-street, Rastrick.
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Marriage announcement in the Halifax Courier and Guardian, 28 Sep 1889
HANSON—BROWN—Sept. 21, at Wesley Chapel, Halifax, Mr. Fred Bates Hanson, of Ovenden, to Miss Mary Brown, of Halifax.
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Thanks Jon.
It may be better to try that marriage. Of course it may not be her but perhaps worth a try.
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Thanks for that link. It could be useful for the Brighouse part of my tree.
I've struggled with the Family Search website since they changed it years ago ( and despite my sign on name for this site!!)
She is the only one of Anthony Thomas Brown's family photo that I have not been able to trace.
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Possible remarriage
June 1900 Halifax 8a 1091
Hanson, Mary
Wardle, Arthur
+ 2 others, Gargon and Moore, who pair off in census, etc.
Free indexes
1901 in Halifax
Arthur Wardle 24
Mary Wardle 30 born Keighley
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X951-1C5
1911
Arthur Wardle 32
Mary Wardle 42
May Wardle 8
All born Halifax
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWJH-XBH
Possible birth of May?
WARDLE, MAY
Mother's Maiden Surname: BROWN
GRO Reference: 1902 D Quarter in HALIFAX Volume 09A Page 395
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That looks good Jon.
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Hope it's her, heywood. It would be nice to have a happy ending.
Bit more.
Free info for 1921
11 Savile Parade, Halifax
Arthur Wardle 43 yrs 6 mths
Mary Wardle 55 yrs 5 mths
May Wardle 18 yrs 8 mths
Death
March 1929 Halifax 9a 864
Wardle, Mary
Age 63
There is an announcement in the Halifax Evening Courier, 26 March 1929
Free ocr text not perfect
Gist of it - at her residence, 11 Savile-parade, Mary, the wife of Arthur Wardle.
To be interred at a Wesleyan cemetery
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There is a death in 1929, Halifax, for Mary Wardle birth abt 1866.
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This seems to be her birth registration in Q1 1866, so it could tie in with the age given in June 1921
BROWN, MARY
Mother's Maiden Surname: HODGSON
GRO Reference: 1866 M Quarter in KEIGHLEY Volume 09A Page 183
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Thank you for your help with this one. I'm working through it and trying to decide which certificate will be most helpful - having had one nonmatch I can't afford too many of those.
Can't find Arthur or May on the 1939. Where am I going wrong with my searches? I'm using Ancestry.
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Hi
From May's birth registration it looks likely that the Mary Hanson who married Arthur Wardle was a widow, nee Brown.
But I guess you need one of the marriages to be sure it is the daughter of Anthony Thomas. Which one would be best? I don't know.
It's not something you have to rush into though.
Free index to 1939 on findmypast has
Arthur Wardle, born 1878
May Wardle, born 1902
Living at 11 Savile Parade, Halifax C.B.
I think on ancestry they are transcribed as Warale.
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It's good news!
The marriage certificate arrived this morning.
Arthur Wardle and Mary Hanson were married on 30 June 1900.
She is described as a widow (Deceased husband's name not given). Daughter of Anthony Thomas Brown (deceased).
Thank you for help in tracing this through.
FS
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Excellent news! Thanks for letting us know.
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That’s great news.