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Title: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: Syd R on Monday 10 February 25 03:29 GMT (UK)
Does anyone know the most common route in 1911 for Plymouth to Brisbane for BISN ships (Wiapara) departed Plymouth 4 Nov 1911 arrived Brisbane 1 Jan 1912.Or point me the right direction so far searches have not been successful.

Thanks
Syd
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 10 February 25 04:38 GMT (UK)
I followed the route of a  ship from London to Sydney last week by looking at the Shipping News in British newspapers, which noted when the ship had arrived at various ports on its journey.

Will have a look for the Wiapara in 1911.  :D
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: Syd R on Monday 10 February 25 04:46 GMT (UK)
Thanks Maddys
That would be great
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 10 February 25 04:56 GMT (UK)
From what I can see, the Waipara left Gravesend on the 4th November 1911.
(Monday,  Nov. 6, 1911
Publication: The Times)

It was at St Catherine's Point (Isle of Wight) on the 6th November 1911
(Tuesday,  Nov. 7, 1911
Publication: Dundee Courier)

At Port Said on the 18th November 1911
(Monday,  Nov. 20, 1911
Publication: Dundee Courier)

Arrived Thursday Island on 17th December 1911
(Wednesday,  Dec. 20, 1911
Publication: The Times)

At Maryborough on the 29th December 1911
(Monday,  Jan. 1, 1912
Publication: Dundee Courier)

And arrived Brisbane 2nd January 1912
(Thursday,  Jan. 4, 1912
Publication: The Daily Telegraph)

Modified to add the Thursday Island arrival.
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: Syd R on Monday 10 February 25 05:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks Maddys

That gives me a path to follow there is a chance there were stops in Torres Straight but that is not important.

Again
Thanks
Syd
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: maddys52 on Monday 10 February 25 05:05 GMT (UK)
trove is a good source as well
https://trove.nla.gov.au

I can see it also stopped at Townsville
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/21924420

Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: Syd R on Monday 10 February 25 05:08 GMT (UK)
Will have a look
Syd
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: Essnell on Monday 10 February 25 10:58 GMT (UK)
Syd R
 Thursday Island is in the Torres Strait.

I doubt the ship would have stopped any where else there unless it went to New Guinea first.  Thursday Island is a shipping control point. I don't know about 1911 but I do know that the tides there are vitally important in passing through to the Pacific Ocean.  All ships now pick up or drop off a pilot to bring them through at Thursday Island..

My husband was an engineer on ships that regularly traversed this straight. he often spoke about picking up or dropping off a Pilot and or waiting for one at Thursday Island.

Essnell
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: Syd R on Monday 10 February 25 21:35 GMT (UK)
That makes sense I just felt there may have been another stop between Port Said and Thursday Island perhaps Java
Any thoughts?

Thanks
Syd
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: Neale1961 on Monday 10 February 25 22:05 GMT (UK)
Between Port Said and Thursday Island, I would expect Aden or / and Colombo (Ski Lanka).
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: Essnell on Monday 10 February 25 22:45 GMT (UK)
Yes Neale1961 
That was my thoughts too. It often depended on who was going to where and if the ship carried cargo as well as passengers.  Most did back then.
 Was it a steam ship by the dates between stops I think so.

This has made me think bout my grandmother traveling 1912 back to England. No idea what ship she was on. 

Essnell
Title: Re: Shipping Route Plymouth to Brisbane
Post by: maddys52 on Tuesday 11 February 25 01:23 GMT (UK)
Yes, I suspect it probably stopped at Colombo.

Certainly Colombo was noted as a port at which the Waipara stopped in November 1912 on its voyage from London to Brisbane.