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Title: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: Skoyen89 on Sunday 09 February 25 16:51 GMT (UK)
Hi

I am researching the WWII dead on our local War Memorials in Berkshire (now Oxfordshire).  One is Frederick John Roach who died as a POW in Germany having been taken prisoner at Arnhem in Sept 1944.

He had married Mary C Moya of Ballaghaclereen, Co Roscommon sometime in the period from 1940 to 1944.  They may have had a daughter.  In 1950 she was living at Church Street, Ballaghaderreem.

Can anyone help with details of the marriage and any more details of Mary and the family?

Many thanks
Tony Honeyman

Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 09 February 25 18:06 GMT (UK)
Rootschat has a strict no living persons policy to protect peoples privacy.  If the daughter was only born in the 1940's she could still be alive so you need to remove her name from your post
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 09 February 25 18:13 GMT (UK)
Her maiden name wasn't Moya - it was Feeney

See freebmd - marriage was Dec qtr 1939 Surrey but to get further details you will need to buy a copy of the cert.  Can't see any births though

www.freebmd.org.uk
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 09 February 25 18:24 GMT (UK)
Mayer (note spelling) is on the 1939 register.  We are not allowed to post details of the entry but she is in Surrey

The entry on the CWGC site shows Frederick died 24.1.1945
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: Skoyen89 on Sunday 09 February 25 23:54 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the help.  The real surname was a major breakthrough - I had tried FreeBMD but hadn't found them. 

I have taken the daughter's name off my original post.  Her name and that of her mother (Moya was her first name not her family name) appears on the CWGC gravestone. 

Again Thanks
Tony
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 10 February 25 00:02 GMT (UK)
I think the daughter may have been born in Ireland - nothing found in England
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: Ladyhawk on Monday 10 February 25 01:04 GMT (UK)
Quote from: CaroleW on Monday 10 February 25 00:02 GMT (UK)

I think the daughter may have been born in Ireland - nothing found in England


Could this be a possibility  ???

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F1C3-VM1?lang=en
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: heywood on Monday 10 February 25 07:26 GMT (UK)
Just to say that the place will be Ballaghaderreen, Roscommon.
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Monday 10 February 25 08:29 GMT (UK)

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...the place will be Ballaghaderreen, Roscommon.

https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4621491#map=14/53.90288/-8.57775



Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: heywood on Monday 10 February 25 10:23 GMT (UK)
This looks very likely for Mary’s birth in 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01365/1562706.pdf
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: Ladyhawk on Tuesday 11 February 25 09:46 GMT (UK)
Quote from: heywood on Monday 10 February 25 10:23 GMT (UK)
This looks very likely for Mary’s birth in 1915
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1915/01365/1562706.pdf

For info.

Her parents marriage 27 April 1915 in Ballaghaderreen, Roscommon
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1915/09814/5563431.pdf
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: Skoyen89 on Friday 21 February 25 08:06 GMT (UK)
Many thanks for the additional detail.  So it looks like he never saw his daughter as he was captured three months before she was born and he died in captivity.  So sad.
Title: Re: Marriage Roach and Moya 1940-4 timescale
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Friday 21 February 25 09:19 GMT (UK)

Quote from: Skoyen89 on Friday 21 February 25 08:06 GMT (UK)
So it looks like he never saw his daughter as he was captured three months before she was born and he died in captivity. 

According to Ladyhawk's reply #6, if you expand the Event Date the birth was registered in the period Oct 1944 to Dec 1944. So she was born anytime from 1 October to 31 December ( so maybe only a few weeks after his capture).