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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Lincolnshire => England => Lincolnshire Lookup Requests => Topic started by: smokeyfeline on Friday 07 February 25 14:22 GMT (UK)
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Hi Everyone, I am trying to locate the above addresses in the mid 1800's, while I lived in the Lincoln Lane area for the 1st 8 yrs of my life, these had already been demolished I think, any maps or photos would be really helpful as most of the Herriott & Royal branches of my family lived here, many thanks in advance for any info ;)
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Lincs Chronicle 21 Aug 1846
"The bridge by which it will cross the Witham will be between the Sluice and the Iron Bridge, from which point it will proceed to West Street, by Cripple Hall and Paddock Grove"
This map shows Paddock Grove.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/114652155#zoom=6.0&lat=2179&lon=10318&layers=BT
Have also seen Cripple Hall Lane and Cripple Hall Court as an address in the newspapers.
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Thanks Hanes, I'll follow your link, I've looked at some of the OS maps of the period but only show the street names mainly, I lived in Pinfold Lane until it was all demolished for a bus station in the early 60's, my Gparents 1930's and then my Parents 1950's lived the same house until that point. My Nan was a Herriott and they lived in the Lincoln Lane area from before 1841 ;)
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On the '51 Census Cripple Hall, Eight Row and Nine Row follow Lincoln Lane.
I have checked Historical Directories for Boston 1855 and 1861 - no mention of any of the first three named above.
Attached - Item snipped from the Stamford Mercury, 26 Jan 1855
Ah - status of your post does not allow attachments. The item simply describes Cripple Hall as "8 Brick and Tiled Cottages or tenements, with yards and premises thereto belonging, at the bottom of Lincoln Lane .....". It names the 8 tenants, some of whom I spotted on the '51 Census.
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I Have a Barney Royal at Cripple Hall, Rosegarth Street, Boston, Lincolnshire, England 1861 census (Grandfather of the husband of my 2xGrandmother). I should clarify I meant the whole Herriott/Royal families go back to pre 1841 not my Grandmother ;D. I followed your link to the map and it has far more detail than the ones I looked at and better zoom,I am trying to identify the bridge in your first post, I presume the Iron Bridge is the Town Bridge. thank you again for all your help, I found a picture of 9 Row here https://bostonpast.blogspot.com/search?q=lincoln+lane (https://bostonpast.blogspot.com/search?q=lincoln+lane) Unfortunately I believe the gentleman has now passed
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The Iron Bridge at Boston was constructed in the early 19th cent and replaced by a higher bridge early 20th cent. Lincs. Archives have some records under ref BB/9/A (Boston Borough).
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Hi Molly, thank you for your info, definitely another link to follow, from your info I am thinking that may be the replacement of what is now known as the Town Bridge as there was only 2 bridges in boston when I was a child, Town Bridge & Sluice Bridge, Haven Bridge came a lot later ;)
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Hanes, is it possible to PM me with the snip? & what status does my posts have to reach to receive attachments?
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Hanes, is it possible to PM me with the snip? & what status does my posts have to reach to receive attachments?
That I can't remember. Requires contacting the moderator. Have sent you a PM. In the meantime -
Boston Guardian, 26 Oct 1938
"A LARGE BRICK BUILDING, known as CRIPPLE HALL, says Pishey Thompson in 1856, stood on the south side of the west end of Lincoln Lane at the beginning of the present century."
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Good news - Pishey Thompson's "The History and Antiquities of Boston" 1856 is on line under google books. Just pop "cripple" in Search
https://books.google.co.uk/books/about/The_History_and_Antiquities_of_Boston.html?id=ZY0NAAAAIAAJ
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Hi Hanes, following your latest links & referring to the map I think Cripple Hall was located where the Sunday School is shown ;)
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Images cannot be attached to this post because it is on a 'Look Up' board. :)
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Thanks Rosie99, didn't know that, still learning ;)
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Hi MollyC, A quick update, apparently the Iron Bridge could be the Railway bridge next to the Grand sluice when the railway was first being proposed ;)
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My knowledge is simply because the river bridge was cast by Walkers of Rotherham, a company for which very little archive material survives. J.G. James was an engineer at the Road Research Laboratory who researched early iron bridges in his spare time, published several papers and wrote in a footnote 1979:
“I am indebted to Miss B. E. Robinson, former Librarian at Boston, who in 1969 located the bridge records and allowed me access to them.”
These went to Lincolnshire Archives in 1974 or later, but the catalogue does not mention Walkers, who are probably somewhere within:
"4. Correspondence with John Rennie and others, 179?-1815 (60 items)"
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Check reply #1 and the Lincs Chronicle snip. Of course, no guarantee this was complied with. Also, arriving via Paddock Grove and Cripple Hall doesn't seem to fit.
See -
https://heritage-explorer.lincolnshire.gov.uk/Monument/MLI88916
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I've been doing some digging following the help received and I think ??? the Iron Bridge in question may not be the Town Bridge or the Railway Bridge but the bridge over the Grand Sluice, which was a footbridge and I wonder if what is (or was) the Witham Tavern was originally called the Barge due to the proximity to the lock, this map shows the proposed railway route https://maps.nls.uk/view/257577065 (https://maps.nls.uk/view/257577065) with a spur ending approximately where the swing bridge is now, note no dock has been constructed yet. Given that a lot of building took place in the intervening years between the 2 maps could the original Paddock Grove have been gobbled up by the railway and the name reused in expanded building?
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I've got relatives in the 1871 Census at Cripple Hall, which is how I found this thread. The highest street number is 56 Cripple Hall, and then it continues to 1 Station Street.
I found an article in the 26 October 1938 Boston Guardian, page 6, that describes Cripple Hall being pretty much where the Sunday school is on the 1889 map, as smokeyfeline mentioned.
Here's a link: https://imgur.com/a/BXuglLS
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I don’t know how well this intersects with previous postings, but just in case it adds anything:
The article quoted below places Cripple Hall in Rosegarth Street, now demolished. This map view shows Rosegarth Street running NS between Lincoln Lane and West Street. The map is underlaid with a modern street map showing that the southernmost end of Rosegarth Street still exists.
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.9&lat=52.97715&lon=-0.02729&layers=168&b=osm&o=90 (https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=17.9&lat=52.97715&lon=-0.02729&layers=168&b=osm&o=90)
2 November 1938: Boston Guardian
SHE OWNS CRIPPLE HALL
At the beginning of the 19th century, a large brick building, known as Cripple Hall, stood on the south side of the west end of Lincoln-lane. So stated Pishey Thompson, authoritative Boston antiquarian, in 1856. He went on to say that Cripple Hall had been taken down for several years.
This much about Cripple Hall, we published in our last week's issue. Shortly afterward, I met a Boston lady who informed me that Cripple Hall was still standing and that she owned it. She was Mrs. Louiza Blackamore, of 8, Station-street, and she produced deeds going back a century and more, to substantiate her statement. Legal documents have always tended to confound me, but after spending a quiet hour with faded writing and black coffee, I found the following reference:
'Also all that Cottage or Tenement situate and being in Boston aforesaid on the West side the Water in or near the said Lane called Lincoln Lane abutting on the Cottage or Tenement last mentioned east on Lands late of said Edward Bainton and then of said Zephaniah Porter called Cripple Hall West on the said Lane ...'
The modern address of the Hall which was in old days occupied by the Cripple Monks is 30, Rosegarth-street, and is occupted by Mr. F. Kent. Mrs. Blackamore tells me that when she took over the property about 13 years ago, there were still signs of its ancient connections. Wooden carvings, old fireplaces and lattice windows were removed in its conversion into a modern dwelling house, floors were rebuilt and little now remains to testify to the existence of one of Boston's oldest buildings. Its bricks, however, are described by Mrs. Blackamore as 'some of the hardest in the town.'
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For what its worth , this 1966 map has no. 30 Rosegarth Street labelled, still standing but looking forlorn.
https://maps.nls.uk/view/144833030#zoom=5.0&lat=2708&lon=1581&layers=BT (https://maps.nls.uk/view/144833030#zoom=5.0&lat=2708&lon=1581&layers=BT)
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Further to reply #18 about no. 30 Rosegarth Street
In 1921
no. 30 Rosegarth Street is occupied by a Blackamore family, although no Louiza is present.
at no. 26 (there is no 28) licensed victualler, 'at home', Tom Rushton, suggestive of a pub
in 1939
Tom Rushton, Hoppole Inn, at no, 26 and the resident of no. 30 is indeed Mr F Kent
I'm not sure how useful 1939 routes are but the record goes:
Pinfold Lane > 20 Rosegarth Street – 34 Rosegarth Street > Lincoln Lane
suggesting that it was at the north end of Rosegarth Street near Lincoln Lane, which fits with the earlier descriptions of its location, and with the map that I just posted.
Looking at the map posted by HT in reply # 1, I wonder if the Hoppole Inn is the PH on the west side in the upper section of Rosegarth Street.