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Mary Garwood married John Pickess on May 13, 1817, in Dedham, Essex. John died in 1839.
She remarries to James Garwood on July 30, 1848. Stating her father is Thomas Garwood.
In 1851, I find them living together in Dedham, Essex, 1851 census. Mary says she is 52 years old and born in Stratford, Suffolk.
In 1841, when she was Mary Pickess, she is 40 years old.
I can't find Mary after 1851, James Garwood dies in 1852.
The Pickess family is originally from Horton, Suffolk.
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Did she live with a married daughter after her husband died and was given the wrong surname on the census.
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There is a Mary Garwood buried Dedham 25 January 1870 age 79 born circa 1791
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Age is given by a living relative who could be mistaken.
A copy of the death certificate will give the name of the informant.
£3 for PDF copy
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There is a tree on Anc that suggests Mary was a cousin of James :-\
Mary Anne Garrad
Baptism Date 15 Feb 1799
Baptism Place Stratford St Mary,Suffolk,England
Father Thos Garrad
Mother Sarah Banham
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Possible Mary in 1861 living at Pound House, Mannington Road, Dedham
Mary Garwood Visitor Widow Female 60 Needlewoman Brantham?? Suffolk
Added - not the right Mary - she was originally Mary Lloyd daughter of James Lloyd and Sarah Fallows Baptism Place 29 Jun 1800 Brantham,Suffolk
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Mary Pickess, widow, dau. of Thomas Garwood did indeed marry James Garwood, widower, son of Samuel Garwood on 30/7/1848 but the marriage took place at Colchester. St. Mary not Dedham.
I agree with Kay99 that her baptism was indeed the one for Mary Ann Garrad at Stratford St. Mary in 1799. (Her parents Thomas and Sarah buried as Garwood, he 14/7/1836 Dedham and she 13/5/1845 Dedham).
Thomas Garwood shown bc.1769 and Sarah (nee Banham) bc.1770. Thomas (as Garrood) was bp.24/4/1771, son of John and Martha and Samuel bp.2/12/1763, son of John and Martha, both at Dedham so Mary and 2nd. husband James Garwood were indeed cousins.
Annette
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Is there a connection to James Clueit? Or Cluett, even!
James Clueit Baptism Lookup
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=888435.0
Still no response from AR.Usher to the replies on that thread!
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Did she live with a married daughter after her husband died and was given the wrong surname on the census.
I'm not sure. I haven't completely researched her children yet, or of James children from his first marriage.
There is a Mary Garwood buried Dedham 25 January 1870 age 79 born circa 1791
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Age is given by a living relative who could be mistaken.
A copy of the death certificate will give the name of the informant.
£3 for PDF copy
It could be her. The other Mary (nee. Loyd) seems to die in 1887, age 86.
Possible Mary in 1861 living at Pound House, Mannington Road, Dedham
Mary Garwood Visitor Widow Female 60 Needlewoman Brantham?? Suffolk
Added - not the right Mary - she was originally Mary Lloyd daughter of James Lloyd and Sarah Fallows Baptism Place 29 Jun 1800 Brantham,Suffolk
I found that Mary too, and got so excited because I was like "Sophia? Such an easy name to find!" But nope. (She is listed as sister-in-law on one of the other census for the same family.)
Mary Pickess, widow, dau. of Thomas Garwood did indeed marry James Garwood, widower, son of Samuel Garwood on 30/7/1848 but the marriage took place at Colchester. St. Mary not Dedham.
I agree with Kay99 that her baptism was indeed the one for Mary Ann Garrad at Stratford St. Mary in 1799. (Her parents Thomas and Sarah buried as Garwood, he 14/7/1836 Dedham and she 13/5/1845 Dedham).
Thomas Garwood shown bc.1769 and Sarah (nee Banham) bc.1770. Thomas (as Garrood) was bp.24/4/1771, son of John and Martha and Samuel bp.2/12/1763, son of John and Martha, both at Dedham so Mary and 2nd. husband James Garwood were indeed cousins.
Annette
There is a tree on Anc that suggests Mary was a cousin of James :-\
Mary Anne Garrad
Baptism Date 15 Feb 1799
Baptism Place Stratford St Mary,Suffolk,England
Father Thos Garrad
Mother Sarah Banham
Thank you Annette7 and Kay99.
If it makes you feel any better, James and Mary didn't have any kids?
Gross.
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There is a Mary Garwood buried Dedham 25 January 1870 age 79 born circa 1791
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Age is given by a living relative who could be mistaken.
A copy of the death certificate will give the name of the informant.
£3 for PDF copy
It could be her. The other Mary (nee. Loyd) seems to die in 1887, age 86.
Probably isn't.
Abode was Broxted
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSL6-P7D
She is more likely to be the widow of Abraham Garwood, who was buried at Dedham in 1861.
Abode Broxted
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSL6-GT
But do feel free to buy the digital image.
It will give husband's name in the occupation column.
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children
John married Emma Watts 1838
Thomas married Harriet Nelson 1840
Mary married John Bull 1842
Edward married Emma Martha Spalding 1844
Sarah married Samuel Rattliff 1845
Rebecca married William Keable 1847
Margaret married Elijah Stow(e) 1850
Henry married Margaret Millar 1860 Farnham Surrey
Eliza married John Youngs 1853
Elizabeth married Joseph Bird 1852, he died 1855, she married John Mullally probably at the Colchester Military Chapel -he was a soldier by 1864 they are in Mersham Surrey, he leaves or dies before 1869 (son Henry is of Elizabeth) she then has Atheline Cook Mullally 1871 with the lodger James Cook - 1871 census. She then married James Worsell 1875 reg. Croydon.
Susannah married Daniel Usher 1855.
Notes Edward moved to Ipswich ref 1851 census.
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Mary married John Bull 1842
Births in Reigate RD
Baptisms at Merstham
BULL, ELIZA SUSANNAH
Mother's Maiden Surname: PICKESS
GRO Reference: 1854 M Quarter in REIGATE UNION Volume 02A Page 110
BULL, ELIZABETH ELLEN
Mother's Maiden Surname: PICKESS
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in REIGATE UNION Volume 02A Page 104
BULL, JOHN FREDERICK
Mother's Maiden Surname: PICKESS
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in REIGATE UNION Volume 02A Page 134
BULL, GEORGE CHARLES
Mother's Maiden Surname: PICKESS
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in REIGATE Volume 02A Page 148
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Death in Reigate RD
Burial at Merstham
GARWOOD, MARY
Age at Death (in years): 60
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in REIGATE UNION Volume 02A Page 77
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Well done jonwarrn.
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Hi amondg
Your marriages round up has been a big help.
Hopefully it's the right Mary. Don't think there are any other Garwood burials in Merstham.
If AR.Usher cannot find a better alternative, it might perhaps be worth a punt on the death certificate for £3.
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children
John married Emma Watts 1838
Thomas married Harriet Nelson 1840
Mary married John Bull 1842
Edward married Emma Martha Spalding 1844
Sarah married Samuel Rattliff 1845
Rebecca married William Keable 1847
Margaret married Elijah Stow(e) 1850
Henry married Margaret Millar 1860 Farnham Surrey
Eliza married John Youngs 1853
Elizabeth married Joseph Bird 1852, he died 1855, she married John Mullally probably at the Colchester Military Chapel -he was a soldier by 1864 they are in Mersham Surrey, he leaves or dies before 1869 (son Henry is of Elizabeth) she then has Atheline Cook Mullally 1871 with the lodger James Cook - 1871 census. She then married James Worsell 1875 reg. Croydon.
Susannah married Daniel Usher 1855.
Notes Edward moved to Ipswich ref 1851 census.
I thought Thomas Pickess married Harriet Maria Reeve? His middle name is Garwood.
Born in Ipswich, Suffolk. He moves to Saint Saviour, Surrey. Children's birth registrations say Reeve.
Thank you!
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Hi amondg
Your marriages round up has been a big help.
Hopefully it's the right Mary. Don't think there are any other Garwood burials in Merstham.
If AR.Usher cannot find a better alternative, it might perhaps be worth a punt on the death certificate for £3.
I'll look around.
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From FindAGrave New Zealand
Thomas Garwood Pickess was born in Waveney Suffolk 1819.
St Mary Holton. on 20 November 1819 mother Garood
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1841 Census Colchester, Albion Court St Botolph's
Thomas Pickess 22 not born in county
Harriet 30 not born in county
Harriet 0 mmn Reeves
Was Harriet his wife a widow ?
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1841 Census Colchester, Albion Court St Botolph's
Thomas Pickess 22 not born in county
Harriet 30 not born in county
Harriet 0 mmn Reeves
Was Harriet his wife a widow ?
According to familysearch Harriet Nelson (nee Reeve) was a widow when she married Thomas Pickess in 1840 (Dedham) but can't find a marriage between a Harriet Reeve and a man surnamed Nelson.
Annette
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1841 Census Colchester, Albion Court St Botolph's
Thomas Pickess 22 not born in county
Harriet 30 not born in county
Harriet 0 mmn Reeves
Was Harriet his wife a widow ?
Yeah, found their marriage certificate again. I never really researched his line much, as I managed to find a descendant of him a while ago.
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Death in Reigate RD
Burial at Merstham
GARWOOD, MARY
Age at Death (in years): 60
GRO Reference: 1857 D Quarter in REIGATE UNION Volume 02A Page 77
There is a Mary Garwood living in Southwark in the 1841 census, estimated birthyear of about 1796.
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1841 Census Colchester, Albion Court St Botolph's
Thomas Pickess 22 not born in county
Harriet 30 not born in county
Harriet 0 mmn Reeves
Was Harriet his wife a widow ?
According to familysearch Harriet Nelson (nee Reeve) was a widow when she married Thomas Pickess in 1840 (Dedham) but can't find a marriage between a Harriet Reeve and a man surnamed Nelson.
Annette
I can't find any children with the surname Nelson, mnn Reeve.
I'm wondering if they "eloped"
Possible the marriage was never documented, possibly by accident, or the groom died before it could be.