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Title: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: Floydminnie1 on Sunday 02 February 25 14:22 GMT (UK)
Trying to find some information about a Sean Nolan the son of Margaret Bennett and John Nolan (married May 1919) He had a sister called Honor born 1923 but I cannot find any specific details about Sean.
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: heywood on Sunday 02 February 25 15:23 GMT (UK)
Did he survive to adulthood?
Do you know if he stayed in Dublin?
I see a published tree shows a death for John Nolan in 1927. I haven’t found it yet but it would give you a time period..
Margaret remarried in 1930
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1930/09040/5270981.pdf
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: Floydminnie1 on Sunday 02 February 25 15:58 GMT (UK)
As far as I know he did. He is mentioned in court documents in Dublin Supreme court in the 1940s and i think he might have been in England with his mother Margaret Frost (nee Bennett) during and after ww2.
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 02 February 25 16:44 GMT (UK)
hi heywood, Margaret remarried 1930, a minor point I know,

SS
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: heywood on Sunday 02 February 25 17:06 GMT (UK)
Thanks ss. I have amended my post.

I wonder if there is any more information to identify Sean in the court records.
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: LH on Sunday 02 February 25 17:26 GMT (UK)
Hi

Have you identified when John Nolan died and the cause of death.  He wasn’t long married, so would have been young.

Regards
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: Floydminnie1 on Sunday 02 February 25 17:36 GMT (UK)
He died july 1927. ta.
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: heywood on Sunday 02 February 25 17:57 GMT (UK)
Looking at a published tree and checking records,
Honor died in Dublin 1943.
Charles Frost died 1945, Dublin.
They were hospital deaths so no next of kin shown though and different addresses.

The tree shows a death for Margaret Frost in 1985, Middlesex.
I haven’t been able to check that. Did she marry again?

I can’t see a birth for Sean Nolan 1923-1927 but he may have been registered as John.

Was Sean known by half siblings or mentioned in an obituary?
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: Floydminnie1 on Sunday 02 February 25 18:48 GMT (UK)
A half sibling to my father who was a child from the second marriage. I know things about Honor etc but Sean is proving elusive.
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: heywood on Sunday 02 February 25 19:16 GMT (UK)
That is why i am asking these things.

Do you know anything  from his half siblings?
Did they meet him?
Was he living in Ireland ir England? If so where?

Added
What were the court records about?
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: softly softly on Sunday 02 February 25 19:21 GMT (UK)
May I ask if the exact date of birth for Margaret Mary Nolan is known and when she passed away as Margaret Frost.

SS
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: Kiltaglassan on Sunday 02 February 25 19:56 GMT (UK)

Quote
He wasn’t long married, so would have been young.

He was 51 when he died in July 1927. His widow Margaret was the informant.

Cause of death was:

Carcinoma coli
(hard to read)
Exhaustion
Certified

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1927/04972/4354300.pdf


Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: Floydminnie1 on Sunday 02 February 25 20:33 GMT (UK)
Her maiden name was Bennett. In my research i think she was born in 1900/1901 as in 1901 I think she was 1 month old. However, other family members completing research think she was born in 9th Jul 1896 Dublin North and she died in October 1962 Paddington, London.
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: LH on Sunday 02 February 25 20:50 GMT (UK)
There was a Margaret Bennett born 1901, see:-

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1901/01955/1754660.pdf

Do you think this was her?
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: Floydminnie1 on Sunday 02 February 25 20:51 GMT (UK)
Famous supreme court case in Dublin.
https://ie.vlex.com/vid/re-frost-infants-805106109
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: Floydminnie1 on Sunday 02 February 25 20:53 GMT (UK)
I thought it was possibly but location dosen't tie in or siblings to this margaret bennett.
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: heywood on Sunday 02 February 25 23:34 GMT (UK)
Thank you for sharing that. It seems familiar unless someone posted a similar case a while ago.
That says that Sean was 19yrs at that time - the judgement date was 1st January 1948, so , presumably, Sean turned 19 yrs during 1947, giving a birth abt 1927/28.
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: Floydminnie1 on Monday 03 February 25 09:16 GMT (UK)
That was my assumption but i cannot find any trace of him. I have tried John as an alternative but no luck so far. I think he would have been baptised at St Josephs Terenure as Honor was baptised at this church but online church records are not avaliable yet.
Title: Re: Nolan Family Riverside cottages Templeogue
Post by: heywood on Monday 03 February 25 13:43 GMT (UK)
Have you tried contacting the church - sometimes they can be helpful.