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Hi All
Could SKS try and find my VANSTONE family on the 1861 or 71 census.
In 1881 I have John VANSTONE aged 50 born Plymouth with wife
Mary aged 48 born Stonehouse
John was a plumber H M Dockyard.
Can't find their son John Francis born 1859 in Devonport on 1881 census?
Hoping he will turn up with his parents on 1861 / 71 census.
Any help much would be much appreciated.
Arno.
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1871 Rg9/2139/76/61
They appear to be on their own at 101 Albert Rd Devonport
John Vanstone head age 40 plumber ?? born Plymouth
Mary wife age 38 born Stonehouse.
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Nessie
Many thanks for your info.
I just wonder if I have the correct wife for John VANSTONE off the 1881 census?
The only info I'm sure of comes from the marriage cert of
John Francis VANSTONE 30 Sick Berth Steward at 69 Princes St,
father John Richard VANSTONE a Dockyardman
---- married ---
Alice Maude Edith HILL 22 ,same address ,
father John George HILL an Engineer
Married at the Parish Church St. Pauls Devonport on 4th October 1888.
Also on the 1901 Census - John F. 42 born in Devonport and
Alice M. E. 34 born in Tavistock.
Could you just check on the census for a John Francis VANSTONE b1859
with a father John Richard VANSTONE b1831 ??
Somewhere in Devon?
John was also known as Francis !!
Many thanks Arno
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living at drekwell? street,st aubyn,stoke damerell in 1871-
john.r vanstone a 51yr old labourer on dockyards born
wife emma 49yrs born -
children
elizabeth.a 17yrs housemaid
john.h?f? 12yr old scholor
susannah 7yrs scholor.
all born devonport,devon
thinking your mary could be a second wife?
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thought these might be of some use to you ?
Marriages Mar 1841
VANSTONE John Richard Stoke Damerel 9 451
RATTENBURY Emma Louisa Stoke Damerel 9 451
Births Sep 1858
Vanstone John F Stoke Damerel 5b 273
Births Mar 1864
VANSTONE Susannah Georgina Stoke D 5b 319
posible marriage for elizabeth -
Marriages Sep 1875-Vanstone Elizabeth Ann Crediton 5b 702
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living in ker street,stoke damerell in 1841 -
john vanstone 20yrs born in county
emma 20yrs also born in county
regards
alli
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found this in 1861-
john francis seems to be down as francis j lol
living at clarence lane stoke damerel
richard.j vanstone a 41yr old sawyer
emma.l 39yr old wife
frederick.w 14yr old scholor
adalaide.m 8yrs
francis.j 2yrs
regards
alli
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Hi Alli
Many thanks for all the info.
I have recieved some census information from Tricia. Can I just check a few differences between the 2 lots of info?
1871 census - I have living at 16 DOCKWALL??
SAWYER Dockyard ??
also - Where is Adelaide M VANSTONE b1854 ??
Elizabeth A b1844 not aged 17 ??
1861 census - I have John R - not Richard J VANSTONE b1820 ??
What do you think ? Which is correct ?
Regards Arno
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Hi Arno...... Has this problem been resolved? ........Kris :D
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Hi Kris
NO. I've had no response from Ali as yet
Regards Arno
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hmmmmmmm what can i say?
1861 definately says richard.j vanstone.
have checked 1871 cencus again-
john r vanstone 51yr old sawyer in dockyard
wife emma 49yrs
children
elizabeth.a 17yrs
adalaide.m 17yrs
john.f 12yrs
susannah 7yrs
address is as stated
regards
alli
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Sorry Have to disagree here ::)
RG10/2128 Folio 29 Page 11
18 Dockwall St
St Aubyn
Stoke Damerel
Elizabeth A is aged 27
Cheers Kris :D
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:o looked like 17 on my copy :-\ must change my specs ;D
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LOL Alli.......gets a bit like that
Here is the 1851
HO107/1881 Folio 435 Page 72
Ker St
Stoke Damerel
VANSTONE John R. Head 31 Mar Sawyer born Stoke Damerelv
VANSTONE Emma L. Wife 29 Mar Stoke Damerel
VANSTONE Elizabeth A. Daur 7 Scholar Stoke Damerel
VANSTONE Frederick W. Son 4 Stoke Damerel
VANSTONE Georgiana L. Daur 1 Stoke Damerel
Best Wishes.....Kris :D
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living in ker street stoke damerell in 1841-
john vanstone 20yrs
emma 20yrs
there is also a 55yr old william but sorry cannot read surname maybe kris can ;D
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Sorry Alli been getting dinner.....Just had a look. Another hard to read entry for sure I think it is Youlton ;D Kris
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Hi Kris and Alli
Many thanks for all your efforts in confirming the census details.
Its good to have different people checking hard to read info!!!
My VANSTONEs seemed to make a habit of swapping their 2 christian names around?? But only sometimes!!
Regards Arno
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Hello,
Can anyone provide details of H W Vanstone, who seved with the 4th Somerset Light Infantry in WW1?
Thankyou
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good afternoon jellby
what info are you looking for? birth?family?
i see a birth for a herbert wallace vanstone bath 1882 and a subsiquent marriage in 1907.don;t know if this is the man you are looking for or not? i dont see a death for a h.w vanstone on cwwg site sso i assume he didnt die during the 1st world war.what info do you actually have on him?
if you can let us know as much as you know maybe we might be able to help?
regards
alli
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Thankyou for the information above.
As my tagline says, I research military concert parties in WW1. Herbert performed with 1/4th SLI's concert party in 1917. He was commissioned into the Indian Army at the end of that year. His post war address was 1 Rockcliffe Road, Bath.
I complile information on concert troupes, and the perfromers, and am interested in doscovering more about Herbert.
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ah well in that case the man i posted looks like a good possibility.
regards
alli
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Herbert Wallace Vanstone is my Great Grand Uncle, being the son of G-G-Grandfather, Ascott James Vanstone.
Born in Bath 5th August 1882, death Bristol 1968.
As a byline, if anyone out there is researching Vanstone families - can I suggest a look at www.vanstoneweb.co.uk?
It's not my site, but has a wealth of information about Vanstone's!
I have previously found the marriage of HW Vanstone in December 1907, but I simply cannot find any mention of him in 1911, nor either of the potential brides!
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Yes alli that is indeed te right man.
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KGarrad
Nice to make contact with you, and thankyou for the link. I'll drop a line to Barbara on the site.
Do you have any further info on him? Would you like a scan of a concert programme listing his turns?
If so, please drop me a pm with your e-mail. I am loathe to post it here, not least because the original belongs to someone else who kindly sent me a scan after I gave a talk on the subject.
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PM on the way!
Ascott James (or possibly Arscott James?) was born in St Helier, Jersey.
The family moved to Bath, where he met and married Sarah Eliza Rich, 4/4/1862.
Herbert Wallace was one of 8 children, including my G Grandmother, Ada Jane.
I found his WW1 papers some time ago, but the trail went cold. ???
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I have Edward BARKER cb1842 either born or living Devon.
Migrated to New Zealand in c1860 and married there or Australia in c1870.
Son Edward Thomas BARKER cb1870 - dAug 1943 in Naracoorte, South Australia, married Catherine Teresa ??
Any help or advice much appreciated.
Arno