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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Worcestershire => Topic started by: xMrsKennedyx on Thursday 23 January 25 21:09 GMT (UK)
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I am trying to confirm John Walter Kimberley's Parents. Here is the information I have got so far:
John Walter Kimberley b. between 1865-1871 in Kidderminster area. d. 1956 in Blackburn, Lancashire.
Married Susannah Patefield 2 May 1894 Clitheroe, Lancashire, England.
Their children:
Edith Kimberley b.1897 Clitheroe m. 1927, Blackburn d. 1986, Blackburn, lancashire
Albert Kimberley (died in infancy)
William Kimberley (died in infancy)
Wilfred Kimberley b.1904 Clitheroe, m. 1931, Clitheroe. d.1953 Great Harwood.
Susannah had an illegitimate child Ernest Patefield before she met John Walter.
John Walter's father on his marriage certificate is listed as Benjamin Kimberley but at the moment I have been unable to find a birth certificate to confirm this.
Any help or advice on would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you found any of the family on any census
LM
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2 marriages found
Benjamin Kimberly 1864
Benjamin Kimberlee 1865,
2 alternate surnames to search
LM
Ps, can't find a John Walter so far but I am not at my main computer.
Perhaps you could cross check marriages with a common surname to this family, 1864 and 1865, it is a common surname within this area
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Have you found any of the family on any census
LM
I haven't been able to find John Walter in either the 1871,81 or 91 census'. Thank you for the alternative surnames, I will have a look at those.
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The only marriage kidderminster cross ref to
Jane Bishop
Or
Elizabeth Devellen,
6c 313 Sept qtr 1864
Strange thing 3 men but only 2 women at this reference
LM
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The only marriage kidderminster cross ref to
Jane Bishop
Or
Elizabeth Devellen,
6c 313 Sept qtr 1864
Strange thing 3 men but only 2 women at this reference
LM
It was Jane - she and a Benjamin are on 1871 with children who have mmn Bishop
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Some possibile births
KIMBERLEY, JAMES WALTER
mmn HUNT
Q3 1866
KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 237
KIMBERLEE, JOHN
mmn HUNT
Q1 1870
KIDDERMINSTER Volume 06C Page 259
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Another option
1871 - in Liversedge, Yorkshire. All b Kidderminster apart from the baby
Benjamin Kimberlee 27
Phoebe Kimberlee 27
William Benjn Kimberlee 5
Phoebe Kimberlee 2
Walter Kimberlee 2 months
Son
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Perhaps he is really Walter?
Getting nearer Mabel
LM
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Well John Walter is just Walter on 1939, so possibly
He's not with his dad on 1881, although his older siblings are. His mother died in 1872, and Benjamin remarried in 1874 and had a load more children, so maybe he's away somewher
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Forgot to say Walter's birth is indexed as Kimblin on GRO, but it's the right family as his mother's maiden name is the same as his older sibling (Burden)
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Well done Mabel
LM
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Still no sign 1881 and 1891. His maternal grandmother and an uncle and aunt are also in the Liversedge area in 1871 and remain up north, but can;t find a stray young lad with them
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Hi Louisa & Mabel.
Thank you for taking the time to look into this! I'll have a look at you suggestions and I'll come back with any information I find :).
Carol.
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Please do.
LM
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1861Kidderminster,
RG9/2079
Emma Smith Governess aged 45 born Bewsly?
Agnes Kimberley NIECE 15 MMN Smith born Kidderminster
Agnes Smith 5 NIECE Worcester
Benjamin Kimberley NEPHEW 20 Kidderminster MMN Smith, ON 1871 AGED 30 1881 AGED 40
Is this of any interest to you?
Could John Walter be with his Smith family
LM
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Looking at census it would appear that John or Walter was born 1870/1871, only once is his birth shown as ? Sept 1865.
LM
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I believe his parents to be Benjamin Kimberlee and Phoebe Burdin/Burden.
Thank you so much for all your help and suggestions!
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Did you find a birth registration?
How about this one
1872 Dec qtr
John Kimberlee
MMN Burdin
Kidderminster
Ref 06c 294
LM