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Title: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: MaccaAddison on Tuesday 21 January 25 09:06 GMT (UK)
Good morning

Having recently undergone major abdominal surgery I’ve decided to as part of my recovery time to get back to my research into my family history. With work I don’t get the time which is so frustrating.

Successful day yesterday but I have hit a snag - Joseph Evans, father of Samuel (1802) and husband of Mary - I think. What who was Mary cannot locate maiden name or record of marriage, and what of his parents?

Joseph was my 4th Great Grandfather. Toddington seems to be the epicentre of my Evans family, keen to find out how far I can go back and what connections there still may be in the village.

Any assistance would be very kind and much appreciated.


Thank you

Mark
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 21 January 25 09:31 GMT (UK)
Have you checked the GRO Birth Index for children of Samuel and his wife?? It gives mothers maiden name -
Based on the 1851 census was this the birth of their son Joseph from the index ?

EVANS, JOSEPH        mothers maiden name ODELL     
GRO Reference: 1846  S Quarter in WOBURN UNION  Volume 06  Page 123

And possible couples marriage??
Samuel Evans
Marriage   29 Jan 1843 Toddington,Bedford
Father    Joseph Evans
Spouse    Mary Odell

Kay
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: MaccaAddison on Tuesday 21 January 25 09:46 GMT (UK)
Thanks Kay.

I may be getting confused, I understood from the marriage records that Samuel married Mary Odell in 1843 and in that record it records Joseph as his father. John is listed as father to Mary.

Samuel’s baptism 25 April 1802 advises a Joseph and Mary as his parents. There are a few Mary’s.

But perhaps I’m reading it incorrectly
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 21 January 25 09:54 GMT (UK)
The marriage is a transcription and does list Samuel's father as Joseph and Samuel's bride as Mary Odell - no mention of a John

Is this Samuel and family in 1841 living in Square, Toddington??  Then it looks like he was widower  when he married and the children were from his first wife

Samuel   Evens   35   Bedfordshire
Mary Ann   Evens   15   Bedfordshire
Sarah   Evens   13   Bedfordshire
James   Evens   9   Bedfordshire
William   Evens   7   Bedfordshire
Jane         Evens      5   Bedfordshire
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 21 January 25 10:01 GMT (UK)
A family tree on Anc lists this first wife as Elizabeth Robinson who re married on 18 Aug 1823 at North Crawley, Buckinghamshire but I haven't checked that

Just found another transcription of the 1843 Toddington marriage and Mary Odell's father was listed as John
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 January 25 10:09 GMT (UK)
Death Reg;
EVANS, ELIZABETH age 35 
GRO Reference: 1839  S Quarter in WOBURN UNION  Volume 06  Page 63

Bapt of Jane has Parents as Samuel/Betsey

Looks like she died after childbirth and female baby also.

Birth Reg;
EVANS,  -      ROBINSON 
GRO Reference: 1839  S Quarter in WOBURN UNION  Volume 06  Page 109

Death Reg;
EVANS,  -      0 
GRO Reference: 1839  S Quarter in WOBURN UNION  Volume 06  Page 61
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 January 25 10:23 GMT (UK)
Looks to me this may be Joseph, remarried.

1841 Census
Toddington
Joseph Evan (69) 1772 Ag Lab
Jane Evan (60) 1781
Charlotte Worker (20) 1821

Marriage  23 June 1823
Toddington, Bedfordshire, Joseph EVANS to Jane WORKER

Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 21 January 25 10:23 GMT (UK)
Found a transcription of the 1823 marriage of Samuel to Elizabeth Robinson and Samuel's residence is listed as Toddington Bedford so looks good
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 21 January 25 10:33 GMT (UK)
Joseph's first marriage?

Joseph Evans
9 Jan 1797
Marston, Bedfordshire
Spouse  Mary Hart

Possible death of Mary Evans
Place    Toddington Bedfordshire
Age    48
Death year    1822
Record set    National Burial Index For England & Wales
Burial year    1822
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 January 25 10:35 GMT (UK)
Excellent Kay :)

FreeREG does have a Marriage as Trees say;

Mary HART
Jas EVANS 09 Jan 1797, St Mary the Virgin, Marston Moretaine
They bapt there;
WM 03 Nov 1797 to Jos/Mary   
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: MaccaAddison on Tuesday 21 January 25 11:03 GMT (UK)
Thanks everyone really appreciate this information. I think we now know Mary was Mary Hart and her father was John Hart.

You are all amazing - you should all do workshops for uninitiated. Hopefully adding this information will provide some insights to Joseph.

Thanks
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: trish1120 on Tuesday 21 January 25 11:34 GMT (UK)
 :)
Good luck
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 21 January 25 11:36 GMT (UK)
This looks like the burial of Joseph

Joseph Evans
Place    St George Toddington Bedfordshire
Age    77
Death year    1850
Record set    National Burial Index For England & Wales
Burial date    13 Apr 1850
Denomination    Anglican

Good Luck Kay
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: MaccaAddison on Tuesday 21 January 25 12:08 GMT (UK)
Thanks again.

Appreciate all your assistance and the latest info re his death. His birth / mother & father are the challenges. I will go on searching.
Title: Re: Joseph Evans / Toddington
Post by: Kay99 on Tuesday 21 January 25 14:11 GMT (UK)
Have you tried looking on FreeReg https://www.freereg.org.uk

Joseph married the first time at St Mary the Virgin, Marston Moretaine and there is this baptism on FreeReg

Place Marston Moretaine
Church name    St Mary the Virgin
Baptism date    22 May 1774
Person forename    Jos Evans
Father forename    Jos
Mother forename    Ann
Father surname    EVANS

Kay