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Title: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: Nick B on Thursday 16 January 25 19:16 GMT (UK)
Hi, I'm looking for Constance Tillyard, born in Cambridge 1924, but possibly at school and living in or around Cardiff as a teenager? Any help welcome, Thanks!
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: rosie99 on Thursday 16 January 25 19:26 GMT (UK)
Have you tried the 1939 register.  Did she marry, if so what was her married surname
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: Nick B on Thursday 16 January 25 19:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks, actually I made a mistake in my post: she married in Cambridge in 1950, rather than being born there. I can't find any birth record and would like to know who her parents were. She had an aunt in Cambridge who have two brothers, but I can't link them to her or work out the family connection.
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: osprey on Thursday 16 January 25 19:51 GMT (UK)
marriage notice from 1950 gives her parents as Prof. and Mrs H J W Tillyard of Cambridge, she is Constance Emma.

https://archives.trin.cam.ac.uk/index.php/tillyard-henry-julius-wetenhall-1881-1968-classicist
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: amondg on Thursday 16 January 25 19:53 GMT (UK)
FreeBMD  Possible

1922 registered London City December quarter vol 1c page 18 -Constance L Tilyard mother's maiden name Harrison

NOT this one she is the daughter of George and Ann.
She died unmarried
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: Nick B on Thursday 16 January 25 20:00 GMT (UK)
Thank you Osprey! I am still puzzled about the lack of a birth record, but the full marriage record establishes her parents and that Aelfrida Tillyard was indeed her aunt. I wonder if she was born outside the UK? I know she had some sort of connection to Germany. I don't have any subscriptions at present, but the 1939 Register should confirm her place of birth.

Thanks Amondg - Constance L was a different person.
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: amondg on Thursday 16 January 25 20:03 GMT (UK)
1939 register
Windsor Road Cardiff

Henry J W Tillyard  18 November 1881 University Professor
Wilhelmine             22 August 1887
Conrad W               27 April 1922
Constance E            13 May 1924
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: amondg on Thursday 16 January 25 20:08 GMT (UK)
She went to Cape Town South Africa 1949 with her mother.

Ship Antenor

Ref: FindMyPast
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: amondg on Thursday 16 January 25 20:24 GMT (UK)
Henry Julius Wetenhall Tillyard married Wilhelmine Kaufman at Lahr Baden Germany 8 April 1913 he was 31.

Ref: ancestry
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: osprey on Thursday 16 January 25 20:25 GMT (UK)
marriage of parents in 1913 with register

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP67-FBZ6

Possible second marriage as Tillyard in 1990 to Klaus W G Dessecker

and death announcement in Germany
https://bztrauer.de/traueranzeige/constance-tillyard-dessecker/56774751
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: Nick B on Thursday 16 January 25 20:27 GMT (UK)
As well as missing a birth record for Constance, I don't see one for a marriage or the birth of Conrad W. b. 1922 either?
Henry Julius was interned at Ruhleben in Germany from 1914-1915, quite possibly he married Wilhemine and his children were born overseas.

You replied while I was typing and confirmed the marriage - thanks!

I had initially confused him with another Henry J who married Daisy Day (lovely name!) in Lambeth about the same time.
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: Nick B on Thursday 16 January 25 20:28 GMT (UK)
marriage of parents in 1913 with register

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP67-FBZ6

Possible second marriage as Tillyard in 1990 to Klaus W G Dessecker

and death announcement in Germany
https://bztrauer.de/traueranzeige/constance-tillyard-dessecker/56774751

Thanks Osprey, I'd seen these
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: amondg on Thursday 16 January 25 20:33 GMT (UK)
I don't see the family in England in 1921.

Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: osprey on Thursday 16 January 25 20:40 GMT (UK)
He may have been in Johannesburg in 1921

https://www.encyclopedia.com/arts/dictionaries-thesauruses-pictures-and-press-releases/tillyard-henry-julius-wetenhall
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: Nick B on Thursday 16 January 25 20:46 GMT (UK)
Hi Osprey

That goes a long way to explaining why and where they might be at these times, including the trip to South Africa in 1949.  This is so much easier than the the ag. labs. in my direct family who didn't leave this sort of detail!

Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: Nick B on Thursday 16 January 25 20:47 GMT (UK)
Thank you both very much, Nick
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: osprey on Thursday 16 January 25 20:55 GMT (UK)
marriage announcement for Conrad in 1950. Marriage in Copenhagen to Bodil Egholm

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6PLD-FW3G

He claims to have been born in Middlesex 
Title: Re: looking for Constance Tillyard, Cardiff 1930s
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Thursday 30 January 25 20:59 GMT (UK)
1939 register
Windsor Road Cardiff

Henry J W Tillyard  18 November 1881 University Professor
Wilhelmine             22 August 1887
Conrad W               27 April 1922
Constance E            13 May 1924

From an immigration record of 1936, when Henry voyaged from Walvis Bay (Namibia), this is the Windsor Road in Radyr