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Title: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Sunday 12 January 25 07:35 GMT (UK)
Good starting point is Vivian James Elisha , killed in action at Gallipoli in 1915.
Service Number 1244
Rank: Pvt
Unit: London Regiment
Date of death: 1915-08-23
Country of death: TurkeyCountry of burial: Turkey
 Cemetery: Helles Mem
 Circumstance: Killed in Action

His direct line includes Beadles of the Tallow Chandler's Company between 1927 - 68.  A period through the Indian Mutiny, Crimean War and death of Prince Albert.

Origin of surname appears to stretch back to mid 16th century so far. Perhaps connected to reformation ?

(The King James Bible draws a parallel between John the Baptist and Elias in Matthew 11:14.  American bibles use Elijah)

Vivian's parents are James Elisha (1850 - 1934) and Catherine Eleanor Doyle (1847 - 1930)

Vivian's brother Hugh Judkins Elisha (1880 - 1927) also did not reach old age at 47.
Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Sunday 19 January 25 10:05 GMT (UK)
Caleb Elisha, Clockmaker/ Watchmaker. Royal Appointment (about 1800) to Prince Frederick , Duke of York and Albany, the second son of George III.

Caleb Elisha
Birth February 2, 1794
Reading, Berkshire, England

Marriages
1. 1821 Elizabeth Weeden
Wendover, Buckingham, England
2. 1828 Sarah White
St James Westminster, Middlesex

Death
September 11, 1860 (aged 66 years)
Brooklyn, Kings County, New York, United States

Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Sunday 19 January 25 10:13 GMT (UK)
(There is NO evidence that the Elisha family are jewish)
ALL of the Elisha's I have seen have Christian ceremonies throughout their lives. Some have been churchwardens and beadles.
Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Sunday 19 January 25 10:19 GMT (UK)
James Elisha and his eldest son James Elisha consecutively were Beadles of the Tallow Chandlers Company for a combined period of 41 years 1827-68.
Title: Elias / Elisha
Post by: Siely on Thursday 20 February 25 19:00 GMT (UK)
Elisha found in Berkshire in 16th Century, Shinfield Manor.
Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Thursday 20 February 25 19:09 GMT (UK)
https://www.marketlavingtonparishcouncil.gov.uk/Contents/ContentItems/4y8ynv250sf4h63n31tkqjggwb

William Elisha was Chair of Market Lavington Parish Council for 23 years.  Elisha Field sports venue named after him.

Family business supplying and repairing Singer sewing machines.
Title: Re: Elisha or Elias
Post by: Siely on Monday 17 March 25 07:28 GMT (UK)
(Interesting that Elisha and Elias and other forms are interchangeable through time, location and choice of bible e.g. a very high ranking example is Sir Elias de Workesley a 11th century crusader buried in Rhodes).

https://www.geni.com/people/Sir-Elias-de-Workesley/6000000003051205789
Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Tuesday 18 March 25 18:52 GMT (UK)
Samuel Elisha and son Edward Elisha were Mayors of Shrewsbury 1725 and 1743 respectively. They were members of the Corporation of Shrewsbury and both practised as attorneys.  Edward Elisha was also a collector and items donated by him are in the local museum and town hall including a portrait of George I.

(unverified but Edward Elisha may have been at the Battle of Preston 1715)
Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Wednesday 26 March 25 07:26 GMT (UK)
According to one researcher of Shropshire / Welsh FH , the surname Elisha is a modified form of the patronymic Elias.
Some evidence (suggestion) that Samuel Elisha's father was an Elias Evan or Evan Elias, a brewer / malster of Merioneth.
When Samuel (and his son Edward) became attorneys they used the King James Bible name form of Elisha not Elias.

So again there is NO evidence of Jewish ancestry.
Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Friday 04 April 25 17:29 BST (UK)
Just checked and the researcher mentioned above was
Martyn Freeth of Shropshire FH Society who sadly died in 2012.
Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Thursday 10 April 25 11:06 BST (UK)
From Commonwealth war graves site (World War 2)

1. Henrietta Florence Elisha , civilian war dead, died 9th October 1944, commemorated in Hornsey borough cemetery.   (Henrietta may have been the victim of a V1)

2. RAF pilot Frederick Charles Elisha, died 21 March 1943, commemorated at Runnymede Memorial.

Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Friday 11 April 25 19:11 BST (UK)
With reference to Reply#10

Sorry ! Frederick Charles Elisha was Flying Officer rank and the Wireless Operator of HX575 Wellington which crashed into the sea in 1943.  He was not the pilot.
Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Thursday 12 June 25 19:22 BST (UK)
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=887956.0

Evan Elisha married Ann Griffiths (namesake is a Methodist   hymn writer and poet), sons Samuel & John,  Samuel's son. Edward.
Title: Re: Elisha / Elias
Post by: Siely on Saturday 21 June 25 12:20 BST (UK)
Fantastic source on origins of Elias surname on Geneanet

https://en.geneanet.org/surnames/ELIAS

Of 63,000 Elias entries over 90% are in the Netherlands, Belgium or Northern France.

Doesn't that make the Reformation/ Counter Reformation important in our general understanding ?

Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Monday 30 June 25 14:28 BST (UK)
Just for reference, there is a Scottish Clan sept of Ellias, Ellice associated with Clan Dundas and also Macpherson.

According to a Google the surname Dundas is derived from "Dun Deas" meaning 'South Fort" or "South Hill".

(A famous South Fort is located near Vicksburg on the Mississipi River)
Title: Re: Elisha
Post by: Siely on Saturday 05 July 25 20:37 BST (UK)
McGillivary, Macpherson, Dundas - Clans of general interest