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Title: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: silver12 on Saturday 11 January 25 13:00 GMT (UK)
Hi
Im looking to find parents of Elizabeth Stokes 1863 born sheffield, her husband is Frank Cousins married in 1888. thank you  :)

Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 11 January 25 13:05 GMT (UK)
The marriage cert is online and lists her father is listed as Thomas Stokes - Forge Man

Kay

Should have added her age was 27 - so born about 1861
Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 11 January 25 13:07 GMT (UK)
FreeBMD does not show any birth registrations for Elizabeth Stokes in 1863 - or did you mean 1873?  There is an entry in December quarter 1873 - GRO give mother's maiden name as Hingley.



Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: silver12 on Saturday 11 January 25 13:12 GMT (UK)
Thank you Kay and its 63 im sure ill double check x
Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 11 January 25 13:20 GMT (UK)
After her marriage the 1891 census appears to show her birthplace as possible Scotland?  Sadly it looks like  she dies pre the 1901 census

Kay
Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 11 January 25 13:34 GMT (UK)
Posting this as a possibility worth at looking - a family living in 1881 at 339, Caledonian Road, Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire, Scotland They originate in England with father Thomas an Iron Worker :-\ 

1881

Thomas   Stokes   Head   40   Iron worker   England
Sarah   Stokes   Wife    38   England
Elizabeth   Stokes   Daughter 18   England
Polly   Stokes   Daughter 16   England
Alice   Stokes   Daughter 9   Scholar   England
Thomas   Stokes   Son 5   England
John   Stokes   Son 3   England
Amy   Stokes   Daughter   2   England
Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: ciderdrinker on Saturday 11 January 25 13:36 GMT (UK)
Hi
this could be her 1871 39 Bridge St Attercilffe
Thomas Stokes 40 iron puddler Sheffield
Sarah A 39 Wellington Shrops
Thomas 15 iron lab Staff Handley?
Charles 12 Wolverhampton
Elizabeth 10 Wolverhampton
Alice I 3 Wellington Shrops
Mary Dachen? 22 visitor Wellington Shrops
Jabez Guy 26 lodger iron pudler Wellington
Henry Matthews 27 lodger same.

Looks like her mother was a Miss Guy.Marriage Shifnal 9.1.1854
Thomas Stokes full lab Sneeds Hill s of Phillip steel burner
Sarah Guy  full Sneeds Hill John Guy miner
wit William Guy and Ellen Brown.
Sarah remarried 6.11.1880 Attercliffe to a Thomas Tetley 50 widower engineer which may be why I can't see Elizabeth 1881.

No sign of Scotland though.

Sorry I was typing while Kay replied  but it does look like same family .Odd remarriage .Library about to shut so I can't check.

Ciderdrinker
Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 11 January 25 14:14 GMT (UK)
To possibly confirm Ciderdrinkers efforts -

Birth registration - December quarter 1860 - Wolverhampton RD - Elizabeth Stokes - mmn Guy.
plus
Birth registration - December quarter 1858 - Wolverhampton RD - Charles Stokes - mmn Guy.




Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 11 January 25 14:21 GMT (UK)
Well - I am confused.  However I think this is family in 1891 that I posted in 1881 - living in Barony, Kelvi.  Their daughter Elizabeth is still living with the family so I don't think it can be the Elizabeth Stokes  who married Frank Cousins :-\

1891

Thomas   Stokes   Head   48   1843   Iron worker   England
Sarah H   Stokes   Wife   48   England
Elizabeth Stokes   Daughter   28   Mantlemaker   England
Mary P   Stokes   Daughter 26   1865   Dressmaker   England
Thomas A   Stokes   Son 15   Message boy   England
John R   Stokes   Son 13   Message boy   England
Emma E   Stokes   Daughter 12   Scholar   England
Samuel F B D   Stokes   8 Scholar   Wishaw, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Lilly M   Stokes   Daughter 6   Scholar   Wishaw, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Andrew J   Stokes   Son 5   1Wishaw, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Elizabeth   Lee   Mother-in-law Widow   Female   72   England
Alexander K   Maxwell   Boarder 21   Civil engineer   Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

Added - Will see if the family Ciderdrinker posted can be found in 1881
Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: Kay99 on Saturday 11 January 25 14:53 GMT (UK)
Sarah remarried 6.11.1880 Attercliffe to a Thomas Tetley 50 widower engineer which may be why I can't see Elizabeth 1881.

I don't think the family that Ciderdrinker found moved to Scotland
I can see Sarah with her new husband in the 1881 census but no sign of any children and at the moment no sign of daughter Elizabeth
Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 11 January 25 15:45 GMT (UK)
Well - I am confused.  However I think this is family in 1891 that I posted in 1881 - living in Barony, Kelvi.  Their daughter Elizabeth is still living with the family so I don't think it can be the Elizabeth Stokes  who married Frank Cousins :-\

1891

Thomas   Stokes   Head   48   1843   Iron worker   England
Sarah H   Stokes   Wife   48   England
Elizabeth Stokes   Daughter   28   Mantlemaker   England
Mary P   Stokes   Daughter 26   1865   Dressmaker   England
Thomas A   Stokes   Son 15   Message boy   England
John R   Stokes   Son 13   Message boy   England
Emma E   Stokes   Daughter 12   Scholar   England
Samuel F B D   Stokes   8 Scholar   Wishaw, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Lilly M   Stokes   Daughter 6   Scholar   Wishaw, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Andrew J   Stokes   Son 5   1Wishaw, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Elizabeth   Lee   Mother-in-law Widow   Female   72   England
Alexander K   Maxwell   Boarder 21   Civil engineer   Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

STOKES, THOMAS  ALFRED     mmn COUSE 
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in BIRMINGHAM  Volume 06D  Page 237


STOKES
SAMUEL FREDERIC
mmn  COUSE
M
1883
628 / 348
Cambusnethan

SS
Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 11 January 25 15:55 GMT (UK)
Marriages Mar 1862   

Couse    Sarah Ellenor        Aston    6d   297    
Cousen    Sarah Eleanor        Aston    6d   297    

Stokes    Thomas        Aston    6d   297    

SS

added, as per 1891 census

STOKES, MARY  ANN     COUSE 
GRO Reference: 1864  S Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 294

STOKES, SARAH  ELIZABETH     COUSE 
GRO Reference: 1862  S Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 252
Title: Re: Elizibeth stokes
Post by: silver12 on Sunday 12 January 25 20:26 GMT (UK)
Thank you everyone sorry i haven't replied sooner i haven't had one notification that someone had replied. Reading your replies not sure who's who its so confusing this family. So are these people her family do we think or do i need to more investigation x