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Title: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: litherland lass on Friday 10 January 25 22:32 GMT (UK)
Axel Martin Peterson born around 1881 and was from Finland. He was a merchant seaman. He married my Gran on 15th Sept 1909 in Liverpool. My mum Ines Peterson was born 1914 and her sister Ellen 1916. Between 1916 and possibly 1919, The deaths at sea register give a death on 26/7/1919 of an Axel Peterson but his address being 1 Smith Street Salford.
From the records I have traced on my family 4 Bartholomew Place Roscoe Street Liverpool was his last known address.
If the death at sea is my grandfather, the ship name was the Notanda. So I am trying to find out who owned this ship and how I could possibly find out when he worked for that company.
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 January 25 22:46 GMT (UK)
Marriage shows him as Axel Martin Petterson.

What is his fathers name on the marriage cert?
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: amondg on Friday 10 January 25 23:19 GMT (UK)
Axel M Peterson was in the Liverpool work house August 11, 1909 to 17 August 1909.

Age 28 of 75 Rathbone Street. Religion Lutheran

Ref: FindMyPast
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 January 25 23:28 GMT (UK)
1911 census  - he is still 28 occ mariner
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 January 25 23:35 GMT (UK)
Presumably you are already aware that your grandmother - Catherine Thomas - was previously married in 1897 to Axel Gustaf Mattson b Sweden

The births for Ines & Ellen were both registered as Petersen - not Peterson
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: mckha489 on Friday 10 January 25 23:54 GMT (UK)
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/47b93f92-55a3-47f0-9b52-63aa78706a25
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 10 January 25 23:58 GMT (UK)
Good find.  Only built in 1918
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 11 January 25 00:03 GMT (UK)
Axel Martin Peterson’s place of death was recorded as Rotterdam, 26 Jul. 1919.
“Drowned in coming on board”.

Notanda 142321 (some basic information)
http://sunderlandships.com/view.php?a1PageSize=100&a1Order=Sorter_ship_list_bld_ref&a1Dir=ASC&a1Page=20&ref=104067&vessel=NOTANDA


The ship’s official log for the Relevant voyage is available (but not online)
Ship's name Notanda Official Number142321
 Dates of Voyage 31 March 1919 - 16 August 1919.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C1733841
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: litherland lass on Saturday 11 January 25 08:11 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for the additional information. Re spelling of Peterson and even my Grans first married name Mattson, Looking through cards/ letters there have been various spellings of my grandfather’s surnames. Matson, Mattson, Petterson, Pettersen, Peterson and Petterson. My mum’s marriage lines was Peterson.
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: litherland lass on Saturday 11 January 25 08:31 GMT (UK)
Carole W on my Gransfather’s marriage lines, his father’s surname is written as Peterson.
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 January 25 09:42 GMT (UK)
1921 Catherine/Kate Peterson, formerly Mattson nee Thomas goes back to using her former married name of Matson.
Even Enas (Inas) and Helen (Ellen) are Matson.
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: litherland lass on Saturday 11 January 25 10:32 GMT (UK)
Amondg- thank you for the information on 75 Rathbone Street re my grandfather, Axel Martin Peterson. I am interested in trying to find out if this address was the workhouse. And if it was, how can I find out more about it. Reason for asking one of my mum’s step sisters ( surname Matson) I have a envelope for her at this address dated July1910 but I have my grans marriage lines giving their address as Upper Pitt St for both Axel and Catherine, before the 4 Bartholomew Place address.
Another question- knowing my grandfather was a merchant seaman, was there a seafarers accommodation back in the early 1900’s
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 January 25 11:02 GMT (UK)
It was his address before he entered the workhouse, the workhouse was at Brownlow Hill.

It doesn't give a reason for admission, he could have been ill, and admitted to the hospital.

Axel Gustaf Mattson the son was born 24 September 1898 address on the baptism record is 62 Upper Pitt Street. (bap. 12 October 1898)  father Mariner
St Michael, Liverpool
Katie Amanda Mattson was born 10 January 1900 address 62 Upper Pitt Street (bap 31 January 1900) at St Michael, Liverpool.
father Striker.

1901 the Mattson family are at 41 Upper Pitt Street.
1911 the Petersen family are at 31 Kent Street.
1921 the Matson family are at 4 Bartholomew Street.

Ref: ancestry.

Notes:
Lancs OPC has address 62 Upper Frederick Street for Axel baptism but if you  look at the original entry on ancestry it's Upper Pitt Street.
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 January 25 11:12 GMT (UK)
Lancashire on line Parish Records - Free resource

Alexander (Axel) Mattson age 22 occ. Carter  married Catherine Dearden 25 December 1920 at St Luke Liverpool,  address was 4 Bartholomew Street, Father Alexander Mattson deceased - Seaman

Catherine Amanda Mattson (Katie Amanda) age21 married George Glover age 26 on 17 December 1921 at St Luke Liverpool, address 4 Bartholomew Street. Her father Alexander Mattson deceased Ship's Carpenter.
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 January 25 11:33 GMT (UK)
CaroleW

Marriage was 27 September 1897 at St Nicholas Liverpool between, Catherine Thomas age 23 and Axel Gustaf Mattson age 24 - Mariner.
Address 41 Gilbert Street listed for both.

Her father Evan Thomas - Cooper
His father  Andes Mattson - Carpenter

Witness John Gale and Maggie Thomas
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: amondg on Saturday 11 January 25 11:44 GMT (UK)
Catherine Peterson/Petersen (nee Thomas) died 22 February 1959 of 11 Pencombe Road at the Newsham General Hospital.

Probate on 2 April 1959  to George Glover - engineer  (daughter Catherine/Katie's husband)
Title: Re: Tracing my grandfather Axel Peterson
Post by: litherland lass on Saturday 11 January 25 11:44 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Amondg.  Some of the information you have given me, confirms what I have from family records but I appreciate what you have sent me, especially the workhouse address.