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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: Meggiejayne on Wednesday 08 January 25 14:00 GMT (UK)
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This is a bit of a long shot but I'm trying to find the identity of the father of my half-uncle.
Charlie Burrows was born in September 1923 and his mother Ivy was my paternal grandma.
The family story goes that Ivy's father was so against the pregnancy/child and believed the father to be a dead beat and purchased a 1 way ticket to Australia for him, which he took.
The Burrows family were residents of a cottage in Woad Lane, Long Sutton, Lincs. Ivy was born in October 1903.
We know that the father's surname was Hutchinson (or spellings thereof) and that he went to Australia sometime either after discovering Ivy was pregnant or shortly after Charlie's birth. So we are looking at a potential emigration between Mar/April 1923 and December 1923 maybe a little later.
We also believe that Hutchison did quite well in Australia and had 3 children, 2 boys and 1 girl. We think the girl was called Joan and the boys became a farmer and a police officer.
We don't know when or where Hutchinson was born but assume that probably somewhere in the Holbeach area and potentially give or take 5 years either side of 1903, when Ivy was born.
I've tried to search passenger lists but not having any luck. I've started a search through Hutchinsons born in the area and then trying to trace what happened to them to eliminate those boys.
Any help would be much appreciated.
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"Charlie Burrows"
Didn't you check his full christian names using GRO online? Unless Fred is a family name - father may have been Fred Hutchinson
Charles Fred Hutchinson Burrows
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Are there any likely candidates in the 1921 census in the same area as your grandmother?
As suggested above family names?
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I couldn't actually find the GRO entry when I searched but came across the birth record for him.
I am in contact with Charlie's granddaughter so she knew his full name and also knew Charlie's fathers surname but Charlie was never told his first name. The Fred I believe comes from Ivy's father's name as he was Frederick Burroughs. He was an extremely strict man and it was his way or no way.
Freddy, as he was known would not let my grandad adopt Charlie when he married Ivy. My grandad Harry tried his hardest to adopt him to get him away from "that man" but Freddy would not allow it. Ivy was only allowed to see her son at weekends and on other days if Freddy deemed Charlie had worked hard enough. To all intents he was a very cruel man.
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Are there any likely candidates in the 1921 census in the same area as your grandmother?
As suggested above family names?
I'm slowly working through them, but so far all the boys of a similar age to my grandmother are all traceable until their marriages, 1939 register and deaths.
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Charles Hutchinson aged 22 left England for Freemantle 18.12.1923
Does his address make any sense - I can't relate it fully to Lincs but there is a Long Sutton in Spalding
www.rootschat.com/links/01tkk/
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Found on 1921 - Little London Long Sutton
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Yes, Charles Hutchinson seems to be the one, so I guess Ivy gave her baby son his Father's Christian name. Charles born Qudring, Lincs 1901. Father Joseph, Mother Emma, siblings Joseph, Thomas, Arthur, Walter, Jack. Went to Freemantle, Western Australia 18/12/1923.
Regards.
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Oh my goodness you guys are amazing.
Little London Long Sutton, Spalding is an address and where Ivy lived.
Thank you - that has to be him
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Was she anywhere near Bright Lane as the address on the passenger record is 47 Bright Lane
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Was she anywhere near Bright Lane as the address on the passenger record is 47 Bright Lane
I'll need to look that up. Freddy, Sarah and Ivy lived at Woad Lane, Little London, Long Sutton
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Was she anywhere near Bright Lane as the address on the passenger record is 47 Bright Lane
Looking at the record isn't that the address for the person below and his address is Mountain Ash, Little London, Long Sutton?
I do know that there is a Cinder Ash Walk in the area
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Yes - you are right. The 1921 address is just as the passenger record - no actual street name & no "Ash"
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So I've checked the map and despite living nearby for 30 odd years I always thought Little London was an area of Long Sutton but tonight I have discovered that its actually a road in Long Sutton.
So Charles lived on Little London and Ivy lived on Woad Lane, which is a road that is off Little London. So they lived just around the corner from each other.
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So now you have his full identity you could consider posting on the Australian board for further info re his marriage/death. It's very likely his children are now deceased so you may also get their names etc
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Have a look at Billion Graves
Narrogin Cemetery Narrogin, Shire of Narrogin, Western Australia, Australia
https://billiongraves.com/images?t=med23111764&col=1&cat=151579&rec=27705066
this could be him
Cass
added , found this on WA birth deaths marriage index Surname
Given Names Sex Age Father Mother Place of Death Year of Death
Registration District Registration Number Registration Year
Hutchinson Charles M 65 Joseph William HUTCHINSON Emma MUSSON Subiaco 1967 Perth 100964 1967
also have a look at the Australian Achieves, NAME SEARCH
https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/SearchScreens/NameSearch.aspx
WW11, there is a record for a chap, Charles Hutchinson, born 24.8.1901 Quadring
if this is him the WA Bdm index records this marriage
Hutchinson Charles Male Argent Mary Jane Female Jilakin 1936 Williams 6700001 1937
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1911 & 1921 entries show birthplace as Quadring
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I can't see a marriage announcement, however there are a few mentions on trove of Mary ARGENT before and after her marriage.
https://trove.nla.gov.au
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Charles HUTCHINSON appears on various electoral rolls at "Sringdale" West Pingelly. An item on trove mentions her parents visiting in 1946:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/252414675
There are also a couple of mentions of children at this farm in the 1950s. I won't name them as they may be still living. Search trove for "Springdale West Pingelly".
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Under this misspelling HUTCHISON, Charles in on the 1931 WA Electoral Roll.
C/- W. FICK, Jilakin where he is a farm labourer.
Same occ as the immigration record.
Sue