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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Dublin => Topic started by: NineTails on Tuesday 07 January 25 20:41 GMT (UK)
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I’m trying to find out more about my maternal grandparents; my grandmother’s name was Mary Catherine Mulligan(married surname Brennan). She was born on May 9th, 1910, in Harolds Cross. She had a sister, Anne, and from what I’ve discovered so far, three brothers. Her brother, Patrick, died when he was six, of Potts Disease. Her other brothers were named John and James, but I can’t trace them. Mary died on January 23rd, 1962.
Her father’s name was Patrick Michael Mulligan. And this is where the fun starts. When Patrick died on April 2nd, 1941, his age was given as 49 years old. However, his year of birth has been given as 1878, which doesn’t make sense at all.This has thrown my search for the Mulligan line way off.
Mary’s mother was Margaret Mahon. She was born on November 18th, 1881 in Roebuck. Her date of death was given to me as October 30th, 1924, but again, I can’t verify it.
I do know that Patrick and Margaret lived in 274 Harolds Cross Road. It was a dairy, and Patrick worked there as a Groom. They’d lived in other addresses in the area, and their other daughter was born in Roebuck.
If anyone could help me untangle this mess, I would be very grateful.
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For information
Mary Catherine’s birth - 1910
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01572/1633876.pdf
Is this Patrick and Margaret in 1911 - but no Mary Catherine?
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Harold_s_Cross_Road/67041/
Margaret says she has 1 child.
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Patrick and Margaret’s marriage - his father James Mulligan, Van Man
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10056/5657492.pdf
Is this the birth as you have it?
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1878/02955/2082307.pdf
With regard to the death, it is the age given by the informant. It could just be an error.
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Is this the family in 1911?
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Harold_s_Cross_Road/67041/
Mary Catherine isn’t there although they do say 1 child living.
Her birth certificate
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01572/1633876.pdf
Patrick Mulligan and Margaret Mahon marriage 1908
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1908/10056/5657492.pdf
Are all these records correct?
If they are I wonder if this could be Patrick in 1901
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Kingstown/Ard_s_Cottages/1318433/
Although in 1911 this family say only 4 children living so that would need checking.
http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Kingstown_No__3/Desmond_Avenue/91570/
Don’t get too caught up up with ages, unlike today people often didn’t know their own age or weren’t too bothered about the odd fib particularly if his wife was older than him.
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Got rid of it, I’m clearly can’t even read a name any more ;D
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Sinann,
Patrick Mulligan’s father was James according to the marriage records.
It is Patrick’s son, Patrick, who died at 6 yrs old.
Here is his birth in 1912
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1912/01493/1607093.pdf
Also - James - 1917
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1917/01297/1536898.pdf
Also - John - 1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1920/01217/1506130.pdf
Nine Tails - are these correct - Patrick is a labourer on two of them.
This seems to be the death you mention. It just says son of a labourer but the cause of death fits with your information
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1918/05180/4430262.pdf
Just found Anne in 1914
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1914/01396/1574326.pdf
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1911 census has a female child - M M, 1 yr in hospital. May be it’s Mary Catherine?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Temple_Street/53238/
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For information
Mary Catherine’s birth - 1910
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1910/01572/1633876.pdf
Is this Patrick and Margaret in 1911 - but no Mary Catherine?
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rathmines___Rathgar_West/Harold_s_Cross_Road/67041/
Margaret says she has 1 child.
On the night of the 1911 census, Mary Catherine was staying with Margaret’s parents in Roebuck/Windy Arbour.
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So she is - and I called myself to look!
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Dundrum/Roebuck/94937/
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I’ve managed to trace back as far as Patrick’s parents; James Mulligan and Catherine Keely. After that, things get hazy. Someone helped with some research a while back, and said that they’d found siblings for my great grandfather Patrick; Anne, Catherine, John and William.
Margaret’s father is named as Patrick on her marriage certificate, yet there’s also someone by the name of Simon Mahon that pops up in searches.
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On a quick search, i can see siblings, Catherine, Ann and William.
James and Catherine married pre civil records so you will be relying on parish records.
Here is James’ death where you can see J Keely, brother in law, is the informant. That may help you work back.
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1886/06261/4793319.pdf
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So is this Patrick?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633455?locale=en#page/6/mode/1up
number 45
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So is this Patrick?
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633455?locale=en#page/6/mode/1up
number 45
That’s him. His father(according to earlier research) worked at Silveracre House as a groom.
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And his Godfather is James Keeley
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So the problem is the age on his death cert yes?
His newspaper notice says buried Mount Jerome but I can't find an image of a headstone which might have a different age on it.
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How sure are you that it's the correct Patrick Mulligan death cert?
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How sure are you that it's the correct Patrick Mulligan death cert?
He passed away just before before my mother was born; her birthday was April 12th, 1941. Plus his address at his time of death was where he’d lived and worked since the mid 1930s. My grandparents, Patrick Brennan and Mary Catherine, lived in 276 Harolds Cross Road until about 1940, when they moved into the married quarters at Cathal Bruagh barracks where my grandfather was stationed.
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Looks like your best bet would be contact Mount Jerome and hopefully they can find Patrick in the burial register or a headstone with an age and also confirm when Margaret died as she doesn't appear to have a death cert or death notice.
It's most likely St. Kevin's hospital just made a mistake on his death cert.
https://www.mountjerome.ie/cemetery/genealogy-enquiries/