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Title: Confused about who died?
Post by: Michellemagee on Monday 06 January 25 20:38 GMT (UK)
Both of these have the same date of death same service number but different names. ?
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Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: Michellemagee on Monday 06 January 25 20:40 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: AllanUK on Wednesday 08 January 25 10:28 GMT (UK)
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Your image shows two men with different service numbers.
Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: emeltom on Wednesday 08 January 25 12:26 GMT (UK)
The Commonwealth War Graves Commission have the soldier with Service Number 1681 as Thomas Magee. Medals were also issued to a Thomas Magee who had that Service Number.

Both the 1891 and 1901 Censuses have a Sarah Magee living in Manchester with sons Thomas born 1886 and Bartholomew born 1889. I cannot find any information re Bartholomew having enlisted although I'm sure he probably did, nor can I find a death or a Census entry after 1901.
Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: ShaunJ on Wednesday 08 January 25 13:51 GMT (UK)
It looks like Bartholomew enlisted using his brother's name for some reason.

Thomas survived until 1964 per this tree https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/200948583/person/252633761993/facts
Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: Michellemagee on Thursday 09 January 25 11:57 GMT (UK)
Quote from: ShaunJ on Wednesday 08 January 25 13:51 GMT (UK)
It looks like Bartholomew enlisted using his brother's name for some reason.

How do you know he used his brothers name.

Thomas survived until 1964 per this tree https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/200948583/person/252633761993/facts
Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: Michellemagee on Thursday 09 January 25 11:59 GMT (UK)
Quote from: emeltom on Wednesday 08 January 25 12:26 GMT (UK)
The Commonwealth War Graves Commission have the soldier with Service Number 1681 as Thomas Magee. Medals were also issued to a Thomas Magee who had that Service Number.

Both the 1891 and 1901 Censuses have a Sarah Magee living in Manchester with sons Thomas born 1886 and Bartholomew born 1889. I cannot find any information re Bartholomew having enlisted although I'm sure he probably did, nor can I find a death or a Census entry after 1901.

That’s what I get.
So I know Thomas is alive till the 60s
It’s got to be Bart.
Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 09 January 25 12:03 GMT (UK)
His service number 1681 gives an attestation date of early-mid 1910.
The 1/Mancs. were in India at the time hence no appearance on the 1911 census.
Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: ShaunJ on Thursday 09 January 25 12:20 GMT (UK)
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How do you know he used his brothers name.

It's a logical deduction. All the army records are in the name of Thomas but the family announcement tells us it was actually Bartholomew.
Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 09 January 25 12:30 GMT (UK)
The other Thomas Magee (352971) from the above tree was in the 2/9th. Mancs.
Make of it what you will.
Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: jim1 on Thursday 09 January 25 12:43 GMT (UK)
You asked:
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How do you know he used his brothers name.
On his war gratuity entry he's named as Thomas Magee with a list of legatees
including his brother also Thomas.
Title: Re: Confused about who died?
Post by: Michellemagee on Thursday 09 January 25 19:46 GMT (UK)
Quote from: ShaunJ on Thursday 09 January 25 12:20 GMT (UK)
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How do you know he used his brothers name.

It's a logical deduction. All the army records are in the name of Thomas but the family announcement tells us it was actually Bartholomew.