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Title: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: DeeB on Saturday 28 December 24 05:13 GMT (UK)
Hello, the town I live in, in Queensland Australia was named after the Beenleigh Manor Farm estate near Harbertonford, Devon. The man who emigrated to Australia from Devon was John Davy with his wife Mary Gooding Davy and brother in law Francis Gooding.

I am trying to find the family of John Davy.

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LY65-2FH
The link has all the info on John that I have under memories and story.

The cemetery paper inscription says that his father was John Davy and mother Elizabeth Taylor.
I don't know where they got that info from, not for want of asking.
I haven't found the couple whose dates match his age.
I wonder if anyone has access to the 1841 Census for Devon?

He was born in Bampton, Devon about 1818- no christening info for him. His birth info from 1851 Census and death year and age. Davy seems to have been spelt Davey on the christening records. The only John in Bampton was 1807 from Genuki.
1861 Census in Harbertonford.
Emigrated in 1862.
Returned for a visit in 1882 but can't find any passenger lists for him.
I have added a John Davey from GENUKI to family search born in Bampton in 1792 and could be his father but haven't got a marriage for him.
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G1YK-5GX
Not sure where to turn from here. Advice appreciated.
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 06:21 GMT (UK)
The cemetery paper inscription says that his father was John Davy and mother Elizabeth Taylor.

John Davy when married in 1845 gives his father’s name as George Davy.
Do you have a copy of the full marriage certificate?

Do you have his death certificate? Information about his parents will have been given by the informant.

On English records, John's birth year varies between 1815 and 1821.
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 06:32 GMT (UK)
MARRIAGE (by licence)   -   27 May 1813 Dunster, Somerset
George Davy of Bampton in diocese of Exeter – Bachelor
To
Elizabeth Taylor of Dunster – Spinster

Both signed their names.
Witnesses Richard Taylor and Richard Webber
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 07:01 GMT (UK)
1841 census Bampton
Elizabeth Davey 45 Independent
John Davey 20 Butcher
+ a domestic servant girl
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQTL-DQC

Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 07:16 GMT (UK)
Have you looked at the WILL of George Davy of Bampton?
Names ELizabeth his wife and John his son.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D175525
free to download once you have signed in.
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: trish1120 on Saturday 28 December 24 08:37 GMT (UK)
Excellent work Neale1961.
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: DeeB on Saturday 28 December 24 08:48 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the link. I see one has to  pay to view documents at the National Archive. May have to take the plunge. You believe you can somehow access it for free?
I had seen a George Davy connected with an Elizabeth Taylor but without the Will I couldn't make a connection to John the son. So thank you.
I see the findmypast transcript for marriage has the father's name as George. I had swapped between the 2 names. I can't remember why I swapped back to John.
I believe having the 2 sources seals the data as accurate.
The death information had his father as John, hence my hesitation.
I appreciate your assistance.
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 08:52 GMT (UK)
1851 census for Elizabeth (Taylor) Davey
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/61127dbcf493fd630c82fa48/elizabeth-davey-1851-devon-tiverton-1795-?locale=en

Same address as the 1841 census.

1861 census
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a148591f4040b9d6e7f2094/elizabeth-davey-1861-devon-bampton-1794-?locale=en
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 08:56 GMT (UK)
Thank you for the link. I see one has to  pay to view documents at the National Archive. May have to take the plunge. You believe you can somehow access it for free?
Yes, it is free to download once you have registered and signed in. As previously stated. :)
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 10:30 GMT (UK)
Having trouble reading the will? Transcription here
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/Bampton/GeorgeDavey1825
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: DeeB on Saturday 28 December 24 10:51 GMT (UK)
Oh my you are marvellous at navigating the websites. That is amazing. Yes I was having a little difficulty in deciphering the text. So good to find a sister for John and another connection to the Gooding family. I may yet find births for Elizabeth Taylor and George Davy. I'm desperate to find a connection between Elizabeth Taylor and this family....https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/LXSB-YKK
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/GFQS-8PY
As Mary Ann Taylor's husband Charles George Mason was owner of Beenleigh Manor Farm Estate in Harbertonford where John Davy lived in the 1861 census before emigrating to Australia. And then we come full circle where he names his farm in Queensland Australia, Beenleigh.
Pieces of the puzzle are coming together. Thank you Neale1961
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 22:04 GMT (UK)
Elizabeth DAVEY marriage to John GOODING
15 May 1809 Bampton

-   Baptised Bampton 31 Jan 1812
John Davey GOODING (age 1 yr 6 months)
Son of  John Gooding and Elizabeth Davey
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 22:05 GMT (UK)
Children of John and Joanna DAVEY
all baptised 27 Jun 1792 in Bampton.
•   Elizabeth DAVEY (age 5)  ie born abt 1787  (married John Gooding in 1809)
•   George DAVEY (age 3) ie born abt 1789 (married Elizabeth Taylor in 1813)
•   Mary Ann DAVEY (?possible burial 1794)
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Saturday 28 December 24 22:14 GMT (UK)
John Davey – a Victualler in 1793 Bampton
See here http://www.foda.org.uk/main/projects/eighteenthcentury/bampton/market.htm
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: DeeB on Sunday 29 December 24 02:57 GMT (UK)
Useful addition...Joanna Miller, occupation and christening information! Well done Neal1961
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 29 December 24 04:54 GMT (UK)
Taking things back another generation – there is this possibility

MARRIAGE (banns) 5 Nov 1756 Bampton
George DAVY to Elizabeth YEO
Both OTP
Witnesses Thomas Yeo and Robert Phillips

Children baptised -----
 - Mary DAVY 2 Sept 1757 Bampton daughter of George and Elizabeth
 - Jone DAVY 3 Apr 1761 Bampton daughter of George and Elizabeth
 - John DAVY baptised 25 July 1766 Bampton son of George and Elizabeth [maybe a slightly late baptism?]
      (The John who married Joanna Miller in 1785)
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 29 December 24 04:56 GMT (UK)
Having trouble reading the will? Transcription here
https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/DEV/Bampton/GeorgeDavey1825

That is a very sizeable amount of property that he inherited in the Will, and George died relatively young, so he didn’t have time to accumulate it on his own.
So where did all the family wealth come from? Inherited through the Davey line, or through a good marriage somewhere. I have looked at a number of Davy wills (all available free at the Archives), but nothing obvious found. 
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: Neale1961 on Sunday 29 December 24 05:59 GMT (UK)
..... So good to find a sister for John .......

Maria DAVEY sister to John, and  daughter of George and Elizabeth – named in George’s Will.


11 Feb 1839 marriage Bampton - Maria DAVY to John Trowey PERIAM
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGYS-7H3B

(John Trowey PERIAM was a lime merchant, farmer, maltster in census)

Children’s births are registered in Tiverton with mother’s maiden name - DAVEY
Note – 1 son name Thomas Davey Periam born 1849 in Bampton


1851 census for Periam family
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/61127dc6f493fd630c82ff96/maria-periam-1851-devon-tiverton-1817-?locale=en

1861 census Periam family
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a148593f4040b9d6e7f2585/maria-periam-1861-devon-bampton-1816-?locale=en

1871 census for Periam family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27X-CTXT

John Trowey PERIAM died in 1872

1891 census for Periam family
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5902e4cae9379091b1c79e07/maria-periam-1891-devon-tiverton-1815-?locale=en


Maria (Davey) PERIAM died 21 April 1896 in Bampton
Title: Re: DAVEY from DEVON
Post by: DeeB on Sunday 29 December 24 09:56 GMT (UK)
The Will and wealth acquisition is interesting. The family certainly farmed alot of land. The Goodings who the Davy family married into twice were also large and generational land owners and farmers. I have added all the provided information to family search. I spent all yesterday adding Davy/Davey family to family search from Genuki only to find they've disappeared today. Jone Davy was one. I usually copy all the trees I add but only copied the ones directly relating to John Davy. I had also conducted a search for Maria Davy with no matches, only to find you found a marriage for her. So thank you Neal61. You seem to have the magic touch. I'm not finding much satisfaction with the Taylor family...they seem to be spread all over Devon and Somerset.