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Title: Buchanan help required
Post by: fletch001 on Friday 27 December 24 16:23 GMT (UK)
Good Afternoon all,
Hoping that someone can help in this brick wall. Here is what i have so far;

Robert Buchanan - DoB NK DoD 1842 Glasgow.
He married  Maria Elizabeth Briggs DoB NK, DoD NK. They had 5 children

Catherine Elizabeth Buchanan DoB NK DoD 1848 in Glasgow, cannot find DoB and where she was born.

William Buchanan DoB Mar 1825 St Thomas County, Virgin Islands (US) DoD NK

Maria Elizabeth Buchanan DoB Feb 1828 St Thomas County, Virgin Islands (US), USA
DoD11 Jun 1909 Liverpool, Lancashire, England

Ann Elizabeth Buchanan DoB 31 Mar 1829 St. Thomas, Virgin Islands (US), USA
DoD 14 Aug 1864 Southport, Lancashire, England

Robert Buchanan DoB 26 Apr 1831 Barony, Lanark, Lanarkshire, Scotland

The main sticking point is trying to find Maria Elizabeth Briggs DoB, where born and when and where married. Also details of their first child Catherine Elizabeth Buchanan, when and where born.

Tried many search criteria but with no luck so far. Just asking if anyone could shed some light on the problems and maybe point me in the right direction or find some details.

Many thanks for all your time and efforts.
Mike Fletcher

Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 27 December 24 18:14 GMT (UK)
I think you need to check the info you have given & also include the source of that info as there appears to be a number of discrepancies

No Robert Buchanan death in Glasgow in 1842 - where did you get that info?  The only one is in Midlothian

If he died 1842 you should be able to find him on the 1841 census which will give an idea of his birthyear & whether he was born in county

No Maria Buchanan death in Liverpool in 1909 - a Maria Elizabeth WILSON died 1909 Liverpool.  Have you traced her back through the censuses & found her marriage?  1901 shows b West Indies

No Catherine Elizabeth Buchanan death in Glasgow in 1848

Robert Buchanan jnr was b 14.5.1831 per SP

You may want to have a look on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk to check the info above

Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 December 24 18:22 GMT (UK)
Catherine Elizabeth Buchanan - Marriage Date   14 Jan 1846
Marriage Place   Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Father   Robert Buchanan
Spouse   Alexander Buchanan

Alexander Buchanan - Marriage Date   14 Jan 1846
Marriage Place   Barony, Lanark, Scotland
Spouse   Catherine Elizabeth Buchanan

Robert Buchanan - Age   0
Birth Date   26 Apr 1831 - Baptism Date   14 May 1831
Baptism Place   Barony,Lanark,Scotland
Father   Robert Buchanan - Mother   Maria Elizabeth Briggs

1841 census Abbotsford Pl Lanarkshire

C Buchanan   19 Scotland
M Buchanan   14 Scotland
A Buchanan   12 Scotland
Robet Buchanan   10 Lanarkshire Scotland
B Mcdougall   25

Abbotsford Place Photo

https://www.ribapix.com/abbotsford-place-old-gorbals-glasgow-the-street-facade-of-the-four-storey-terrace-tenement-with-ionic-porch_riba28884

Sandra
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 December 24 18:34 GMT (UK)

marriage - Scotlands People

Maria Elizabeth Buchanan marriage to William Hebden Wilson
10/04/1851
510 30 / 408
Dunoon and Kilmun

Sandra

Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 December 24 18:35 GMT (UK)

Marie Elizabeth Wilson -
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: *Sandra* on Friday 27 December 24 18:36 GMT (UK)
Death Registered September 1859

Wilson    William Hebdon        Ormskirk    8b   383   

Death Registered June 1909

WILSON    Maria Elizabeth    80    W. Derby    8b   397

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/maria-elizabeth-buchanan-24-bbn560

Sone general information

https://www.thoughtco.com/us-virgin-islands-vital-records-1422794

It looks like there should be church records retained, not birth certificates as such.  It seems like a lot of the records now should be on microfilm with the LDS.


Caribbean Genealogy Library, on St Thomas.
https://cgl.vi/



Sandra
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 27 December 24 18:37 GMT (UK)
So all info available online
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: Forfarian on Friday 27 December 24 22:42 GMT (UK)
Alexander Buchanan and Catherine Elizabeth Buchanan seem to have had at least one child, whose baptism is recorded twice. See screenshot.

The IGI gives her name as Catherine Elizabeth Grace and birth date 16 November 1846.

I have yet to find her in the 1851 census, unless she is the four-year-old boarder, born Scotland, in the household of Henry Hugh Courtenay, Rector of Mamhead, in the Parsonage, Mamhead, Devon.

She's still there in 1861, listed as Catherine E G Buchanan, so it looks as if it must be her.

She married, in London in 1869, John Baillie Baillie-Hamilton. In a newspaper marriage notice she is described as 'of Arnprior'.

The current chief of Clan Buchanan is John Michael Baillie-Hamilton Buchanan.
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: fletch001 on Saturday 28 December 24 08:43 GMT (UK)
Good Morning All,
Thank you for all your feedback, I used their maiden names at the start, i knew about the Wilson marriage and have all the details. Ann Elizabeth did not marry. I also have the marriage of Catherine Elizabeth Buchanan to Alexander Buchanan etc.

The main person who i cannot find anything about is the correct details for Robert Buchanan and his wife Maria Elizabeth Briggs.
I will visit the weblinks again, just in case i missed something.
Many thanks
Mike
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 28 December 24 11:53 GMT (UK)

Just a thought. The son Robert jnr was born 1831 so perhaps you would expect to see the father listed in Glasgow.  Here is the  1830 - 1831 Post Office Annual Glasgow Directory which has a few Robert Buchanan listed.

Do you know what the occupation was ?

https://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/archive/87853215?mode=transcription

Sandra
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: fletch001 on Saturday 28 December 24 16:30 GMT (UK)
Hi Sandra,
Thanks for your reply, he obviously lived in St Thomas, Virgin Islands for a while, so i am assuming Robert Snr was possibly a West Indies sugar/tobacco merchant.

Mike
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: *Sandra* on Saturday 28 December 24 16:34 GMT (UK)

Have you come across this address by any chance:-

Buchanan, Robert, West India produce broker, 33
Virginia street, house 25 Blythswood square. Glasgow.

Sandra
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 28 December 24 17:12 GMT (UK)
Here is what i have so far

I used their maiden names at the start, i knew about the Wilson marriage and have all the details. Ann Elizabeth did not marry. I also have the marriage of Catherine Elizabeth Buchanan to Alexander Buchanan etc

So you actually had quite a lot more information than you initially said, and several of us have wasted our time duplicating what you already knew.
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: fletch001 on Sunday 29 December 24 10:57 GMT (UK)
Hello Sandra,
Yes, i have seen this, good find, however, making sure i have the correct person is another thing. I will keep searching.
Many thanks
Mike
Title: Re: Buchanan help required
Post by: fletch001 on Sunday 29 December 24 11:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Forfarian,
My apologies, i listed the whole family in good faith to let people see the whole picture. However, i did mention the people i was stuck on.

(The main sticking point is trying to find Maria Elizabeth Briggs DoB, where born and when and where married. Also details of their first child Catherine Elizabeth Buchanan, when and where born. As well as Robert Snr.)

I will make sure that i only list the people who require research in future.
Kind Regards
Mike