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Title: Humphreys
Post by: bully on Monday 23 December 24 18:29 GMT (UK)
Hello again,
I have a marraige for a George Humphreys and Hilda M Farrington, March 1928 at Wolverhampton, and do know all about Hilda,but don't have anything on George.
You wonderful people out there, are so good at finding things, and you do it so much quicker than I can.
Just wandered if there's anything on the 1930s register?
Thanks again
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 23 December 24 18:44 GMT (UK)
Info from the 1939 register that can only be obtained by subscription is not allowed to be given here.   It would only give his birthdate - not his birthplace

Check if your local library has free Ancestry access - most do

Another alternative is to purchase the marriage cert as that will give his fathers name & occ
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: AlanBoyd on Monday 23 December 24 18:49 GMT (UK)
I think it is probably ok to tell you that she is recorded as married (not widowed) but he isn’t there.
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 23 December 24 18:51 GMT (UK)
Probably serving in WW2.  A tree on Ancestry has him b 1907 Shropshire but apart from a GRO entry there is nothing to support it being the right GH
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 23 December 24 19:00 GMT (UK)
REVISED FROM PREVIOUS REPLY IN VIEW OF FURTHER INFO

The tree shows Hilda died 1998 Wrekin Shropshire.  That 1998 death was in Port Talbot Glamorgan!!

Birthdate 11.5.1906 on the death reg links to her husband being Evan

Yours was Hilda Mary Humphreys b 27.9.1906 died 1997 Shropshire

The Humphreys /Farrington marriage produced 7 Children b 1928-1942.  Last 4 births in Shropshire

Never trust other peoples trees😡😡
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: bully on Monday 23 December 24 19:40 GMT (UK)
Hi again,
Just thought I'd let you know that I think I've found George.
It looks like he was actually born in Surrey 30th May 1892.
But thank you all
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 23 December 24 19:42 GMT (UK)
That would make him 14yrs older than Hilda & too old to serve in WW2 - so where was he in 1939?

See he died Wellington Shropshire 1970
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 23 December 24 19:49 GMT (UK)
No birth in Surrey in the June or September qtr 1892 for a George Humphreys.  Where have you got your info from?
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: AlanBoyd on Monday 23 December 24 20:19 GMT (UK)
George Humphries who died 1970 has birth date 30/5/1892

In 1921 in Wolverhampton there is a George Humphreys age 29y 1mo (that matches I believe) born Brighton, although his parents are born Worcestershire, and his two younger siblings were born in Wolverhampton.

A small point, but his father has the same name as the eldest son with Hilda M Humphries in the 1939 register.
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: AlanBoyd on Monday 23 December 24 20:25 GMT (UK)
In 1911 the same Humphreys family is in Wolverhampton, father is Charles, 47.

FindMyPast gives this census reference, apologies I don't know how to parse this to get the relevant bits.

RG14PN17020 RG78PN1051 RD369 SD4 ED11 SN160

There are actually three children born in Brighton.
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: AlanBoyd on Monday 23 December 24 20:40 GMT (UK)
The Humphreys family in Brighton in 1891

RD Brighton
ED18
piece 806
folio 86

George is 1 month old, [but this doesn't fit with the date on the death record since the census was taken in April.]
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 23 December 24 20:50 GMT (UK)
As previously said - you need to buy the marriage cert.  Humphreys or Humphries?

Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: bully on Monday 23 December 24 21:55 GMT (UK)
Hello,
The info I found on George, b Surrey 1892, was from familysearch, and it was from his military record.
According to that ,there are six children, some born Wolverhampton, the others are the Shropshire kids.
And it also states he's married to Hilda Mary  Farrington.
Cheers
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 23 December 24 22:19 GMT (UK)
Good find.  Second childs birthdate 29.10.1921 - suggests an earlier marriage
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: bully on Monday 30 December 24 13:29 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
Having spoken to one of George's children, who is 90, she tells me there was an older brother called Charles, and also a younger brother, called George.
They weren't on the military records......it would be good to find them if possible.
I'm helping this lady to find some of her family tree.
Thanks again everyone.
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: Mabel Bagshawe on Monday 30 December 24 17:06 GMT (UK)
Charles B G Humphreys
Mother's Maiden Name    Farrington
Q4 1928
Wolverhampton Vol 6b p779

I can't see the military record itself, just the summary on familysearch

Child's Birth Date   3 April 1930 
Second Child's Birth Date   29 October 1921
Third Child's Birth Date   6 September 1928 Presumably Charles, if registered in early October 1928
Fourth Child's Birth Date   13 March 1935
Fifth Child's Birth Date   27 June 1938
Sixth Child's Birth Date   20 July 1933

Matching the birth registrations I can find to these dates, I think the 1921 data is a typo and it should  be 1931. There's a birth registration with mother's maiden name Farrington that fits that date - also it's just such an outlier from the rest.

The George you mentioned was b 1942, so not in this list
Title: Re: Humphreys
Post by: softly softly on Monday 30 December 24 17:13 GMT (UK)
HUMPHREYS, CHARLES  BRERETON GEORGE    1928 
GRO Reference:  DOR  Q2/2000 in LEEDS  (0921A)  Reg A25C  Entry Number 52

Married Catherine Miller 1955 Leeds

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HUMPHREYS, CHARLES  BRERETON GEORGE       
GRO Reference: 1928  D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON  Volume 06B  Page 779