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Title: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: kivo on Sunday 22 December 24 18:19 GMT (UK)
I am struggling to find information on the parents of one of my ancestors - John Henry Richardson  b.1886 d.1973

As a widower, he married Elsie Maud Webster in 1932 aged 45, but no father given. His DoB (from 1939 register) is 27/10/1886, and there isn't a father on his birth registration either, but there is a father - a John Nadin Silkstone - on his baptism record, and on his first marriage record, in 1907 to Eliza Lee.

I'm not sure what to put down regarding his father - of the four records I can find, two records don't list one and two do!

Moving on to John Henry's mother - her name is given as Rose Hannah Richardson on his birth registration.

I've found a marriage record for John Nadin Silkstone and Rose Hannah Richardson (aged 22) in Rawmarsh in 1888. Rose's father is listed as John Henry Richardson (another one!), but I've been unable to find any further records for Rose or her father before then.
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 24 19:22 GMT (UK)
I suspect whilst he retained his birth surname of Richardson - he gave his stepfathers name on his marriage cert.  Illegitimacy was a stigma in those days & many brides/grooms made up a fathers name to appear "respectable"

There is the possibility that John Silkstone was his father as it's not unknown for children to be born before the parents married. 
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: cath151 on Sunday 22 December 24 19:28 GMT (UK)
Possibly in the 1871 census as the Richards family in Low Valley, Darfield.
John and Mary Richards
Family includes Rosanna aged 2 born Darfield.
The same family appear on the 1881 census in Sandhill Road, Rawmarsh.

Cathy
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 24 19:28 GMT (UK)
Deaths March qtr 1938

Roseanna Silkstone 69 Rotherham 9c 800
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 24 19:31 GMT (UK)
Births June qtr 1867

John Nadin Silkstone Rotherham 9c 552
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 24 19:50 GMT (UK)
1911 she is transcribed as Roschannah Silkstone.

Search using child Albert R Silkstone b 1889 Rawmarsh Yorkshire
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 24 19:55 GMT (UK)
1901 - John H Richardson b 1887 Rawmarsh plus the Silkstone children Albert & Bertie are boarders with a family called Hutchinson
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 22 December 24 20:03 GMT (UK)
Baptism transcription on Ancestry

John Henry Richardson baptised 26.12.1886 parents John Richardson & Rose Hannah

In 1891 he is with grandparents Thomas Richardson 39 b Worcs & Mary A 38 b South Staffs
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: MollyC on Sunday 22 December 24 20:05 GMT (UK)
Findmypast/Genuki: Rawmarsh St Mary

John Nadin Silkstone bp 2 Jun 1867, parents James & Harriet, Rose Hill, miner

James Silkstone bu 20 Nov 1871 a37 Rawmarsh
 
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: cath151 on Sunday 22 December 24 20:08 GMT (UK)
I might be on the wrong track and have the wrong family but there is a birth for a Rosanna Richards  1868 Barnsey Union mmn Fox
Possible marriage given the midlands connection
John Henry Richards
same page Mary Ann Fox  AMJ 1860 West Bromwich

Cathy
Title: Re: John Henry Richardson b.1886
Post by: MollyC on Sunday 22 December 24 21:15 GMT (UK)
Edited from pairs of records in:
http://sheffieldindexers.com/ParishMarriageIndex.html

SILKSTONE, James (Bachelor, age 32, Miner, residing at The Wicker).
    Married Harriet JOHNSON,  (Spinster, age 25, ~, residing at The Wicker).
    on January 25, 1866, by Gilbert Todd (Banns) at
    Holy Trinity, Wicker.  Fathers' names:
    John Silkstone (Miner),  John Johnson (Carter).
    Married in the presence of Joseph Greenway,Elizabeth Hall (mark).
    Notes: ~.
    Page No: 102 Reg No: 204

SILKSTONE, Harriet (Widow, age 35, ~, residing at Netherthorpe Rd).
    Married William SHEPHERD, (Widower, age 32, Miner, residing at Netherthorpe Rd).
    on December 25, 1875, by Robt Douglas (Banns) at
    St Stephen, Netherthorpe.  Fathers' names:
    John Johnson (Labourer),   James Shepherd (Labourer).
    Married in the presence of William Callis,Elizabeth Lodge.
    Notes: Groom signed with a mark.
    Page No: 92 Reg No: 184