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Title: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Wednesday 18 December 24 11:47 GMT (UK)
Happy happy Christmas to all … I am  looking for some help please ..

I am looking for two siblings

George Gorman …  20 MAR 1903 • Bethal Green

William GORMAN  17 NOV 1905 • Bethnal Green

Parents are John GORMAN and Eliza WALKER.

I am looking to see if either of the siblings have married and ended up in Norfolk …  I have traced William to 1939 in Hackney living with his brother  ( Joseph) and his family , but nothing on George….


Any help is appreciated . Thank you  :)



Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: CaroleW on Wednesday 18 December 24 11:55 GMT (UK)
Where is George on the 1921 census?

If William was unmarried in 1939 have you looked for a marriage/death from 1939 onwards?
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Wednesday 18 December 24 12:01 GMT (UK)
I can’t find him  :( ( George in 1921 )
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 18 December 24 12:47 GMT (UK)
The parents of these 2 boys are (James)JOSEPH Gorman and Eliza Walker, married jq 1896. By 1901 parents are with 2 daughters Annie 1896 & Eliza E 1901. By 1911 the 2 boys are in a school in St Charles School, Weald Road Brentwood Essex, South Weald, Essex, England.

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added, 1921 are Eliza, Annie, Eliza, & William--mother a widow, no George.
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: Millmoor on Wednesday 18 December 24 14:00 GMT (UK)
St Charles' School would appear to have been an orphanage for Roman Catholic Boys. ( R C baptisms for George and William can be found on FindMyPast).

https://www.childrenshomes.org.uk/BrentwoodStCharles/

There is a possible death for father Joseph Gorman in Bethnal Green, Apr - Jun 1906, age 34.

William
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 18 December 24 14:08 GMT (UK)
Happy happy Christmas to all … I am  looking for some help please ..

I am looking for two siblings

George Gorman …  20 MAR 1903 • Bethal Green

William GORMAN  17 NOV 1905 • Bethnal Green

Parents are John GORMAN and Eliza WALKER.

I am looking to see if either of the siblings have married and ended up in Norfolk …  I have traced William to 1939 in Hackney living with his brother  ( Joseph) and his family , but nothing on George….


Any help is appreciated . Thank you  :)

William's actual dob is 17th Novenber 1904

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Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Wednesday 18 December 24 14:31 GMT (UK)
The parents of these 2 boys are (James)JOSEPH Gorman and Eliza Walker, married jq 1896. By 1901 parents are with 2 daughters Annie 1896 & Eliza E 1901. By 1911 the 2 boys are in a school in St Charles School, Weald Road Brentwood Essex, South Weald, Essex, England.

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added, 1921 are Eliza, Annie, Eliza, & William--mother a widow, no George.

Thank you . I have noticed the lads being placed in and out of union workhouses too . Did they marry ? Thank you
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 18 December 24 14:42 GMT (UK)
Why are you thinking of a Norfolk connection. I've a suspicion that William died in 1970 Hammersmith.

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Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 18 December 24 14:54 GMT (UK)
Have you considered this death for George.

GORMAN, GEORGE       aged 26 
GRO Reference: 1930  M Quarter in DARTFORD  Volume 02A  Page 919

Digital image available for £3

Burial date 18 Mar 1930, Burial ground Darenth Asylum Cemetery

Only 2 George Gorman births (without a second name) born 1903-4

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Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: manukarik on Wednesday 18 December 24 20:09 GMT (UK)
George definitely had no middle name? Too many others to consider as DOB often not given. For example, there is a GA Gorman in the Royal Engineers in 1939.
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: Emzunicorn01 on Wednesday 18 December 24 20:23 GMT (UK)
George definitely had no middle name? Too many others to consider as DOB often not given. For example, there is a GA Gorman in the Royal Engineers in 1939.

Hi!

nope he has no middle name
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: manukarik on Wednesday 18 December 24 20:35 GMT (UK)
Thanks!
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: Daisypetal on Friday 20 December 24 23:51 GMT (UK)

Hi,

Try looking at George GOODMAN age:18 b.Bethnal Green, at Bridge Training Home, Witham, Essex. I think the image looks more like GORMAN.

Regards,
Daisy
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: softly softly on Saturday 21 December 24 07:58 GMT (UK)

Hi,

Try looking at George GOODMAN age:18 b.Bethnal Green, at Bridge Training Home, Witham, Essex. I think the image looks more like GORMAN.

Regards,
Daisy

That looks a good call Daisypetal

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Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: softly softly on Wednesday 25 December 24 11:52 GMT (UK)
Have you considered this death for George.

GORMAN, GEORGE       aged 26 
GRO Reference: 1930  M Quarter in DARTFORD  Volume 02A  Page 919

Digital image available for £3

Burial date 18 Mar 1930, Burial ground Darenth Asylum Cemetery

Only 2 George Gorman births (without a second name) born 1903-4

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Not your man

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Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: jonwarrn on Thursday 26 December 24 14:51 GMT (UK)
Not your man

:o
That's a surprise.
Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 26 December 24 15:54 GMT (UK)
Not your man

:o
That's a surprise.

I was pretty sure it was. Have attached death image.


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Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 26 December 24 16:20 GMT (UK)
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Title: Re: Two brothers , am puzzled. Where are they .
Post by: softly softly on Friday 27 December 24 08:20 GMT (UK)
The parents of these 2 boys are (James)JOSEPH Gorman and Eliza Walker, married jq 1896. By 1901 parents are with 2 daughters Annie 1896 & Eliza E 1901. By 1911 the 2 boys are in a school in St Charles School, Weald Road Brentwood Essex, South Weald, Essex, England.

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added, 1921 are Eliza, Annie, Eliza, & William--mother a widow, no George.

Believe I was incorrect with this info re 1911

New 1911 ref Piece   1595

Eliza Gorman   45
Annie Gorman 15
Lilie Gorman 10
Gorge Gorman 8
Willie Gorman 6
Joe Gorman 5

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