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Title: Poppy/Dalby marriages Ipswich
Post by: Shropshire Lass on Monday 16 December 24 16:41 GMT (UK)
I have a couple - Frederick Poppy and Matilda Dalby - who seem to have got married twice - once in 1854 and again in 1859 in Ipswich.

Before I pay for the two certificates, can anyone suggest why this might happen?

Because the names aren't very common, I don't think it's likely that it's two different couples.
Title: Re: Poppy/Dalby marriages Ipswich
Post by: softly softly on Monday 16 December 24 17:06 GMT (UK)
Can you supply an 1854 reference. Found 1859 no trouble.

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Title: Re: Poppy/Dalby marriages Ipswich
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 December 24 19:47 GMT (UK)
I can only find an 1859 one as well
Title: Re: Poppy/Dalby marriages Ipswich
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 16 December 24 19:54 GMT (UK)
They appear to have had 4 children before 1859 - is the supposition of an 1854 marriage based on that?

Frederick James 1854
William James 1855
Henry 1857
Matilda Jane 1858
Title: Re: Poppy/Dalby marriages Ipswich
Post by: Shropshire Lass on Wednesday 18 December 24 11:53 GMT (UK)
Sorry for the delay in getting back to this - my health is very variable and some days my brain function isn't up to writing replies.

I can't find the 1854 one now, either. 

I've had it for some time (Mar qr 1854 Ipswich 4a 523) and it fit with Matilda's children - her first two were registered with her surname but the third, Frederick James, born 7 Jan 1854 was registered and baptised with the Poppy surname.

Frederick was followed by William, Henry and Matilda - all registered with the surname Poppy.  All were born before the 1859 marriage.

Title: Re: Poppy/Dalby marriages Ipswich
Post by: gobbitt on Wednesday 18 December 24 12:20 GMT (UK)
The birth of Frederick James Poppy was registered with that GRO reference in 1854 (no marriages on page 523 in Ipswich district).
Title: Re: Poppy/Dalby marriages Ipswich
Post by: Shropshire Lass on Wednesday 18 December 24 12:35 GMT (UK)
Thank you for solving the issue!

I must have filled in the info in the wrong cell on my spreadsheet.

It's curious that the couple didn't marry until 1859 but they must have had good reasons - they were clearly living 'as man and wife'.