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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Orkney => Topic started by: Yarratt on Wednesday 11 December 24 12:42 GMT (UK)
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Hi All
I'm trying to find out information on my 6G Grandmother Isobill Langskeall B:bef 24 Aug 1691 Holm and Paplay, Orkney, Scotland. She married Patrick Allan b1692. I think her parents were James Langskeall and Isobill Coupland b1672, but I'm not able to confirm this. Would anyone have any information that is verifiable? I have found 3 other possible spouses, but also am not sure if it is the same Isobill Langskeall.
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SP show her baptism on 8 August 1691 in Holm and Paplay and gives the names that you give for her parents.
I've not found details of a marriage for them in Orkney records but the % of marriages recorded at this time is very low. I have a figure of 30% in my mind.
Sorry.
Gadget
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Thanks for that. I did manage to find a baptism for 24 August 1691 at Holm and Paplay (990501) would that be the one you found? Also I'm looking for information on her parents, now that they are confirmed, please.
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I found the information on the Scotlands People site*. It is the main site for accessing Scottish BMDs. The H&P parish record was clear for that time.
I also had a quick look for the parents' names but nothing jumped out.
You've not said where you've searched for information.
I think you should be looking at the SP site for information, including their Kirk sessions records.
* in case you've not used the site, it is :
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/
Also, other sites ~
https://www.nrscotland.gov.uk/
https://www.orkneyfhs.co.uk/
https://www.orkneyfhs.co.uk/
and links on the top of this board:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=505711.0
Gadget
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The nearest that I can find for a baptism in Orkney for James is
St Andrews, 11 April 1666:
James Langsaill, parents - Andrew Langsaill and Margaret Spence
and one that seems a bit late:
Holm and Pappay 30 Sept 1679
James Langskeall, parents David Langskeall and Margaret Garioch
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Nearest for Isobell (vaariations)
H&P, 23 Dec 1660
Isobell Coupland , parent Patrick Coupland
H&P, 20 June 1654
Isobell Coupland, parents Gawin Coupland and Agnes Sinclair
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Do any of the parents' names appear in any of Isobell's children's names ?
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I've just found the record for Isobell's bptism that you mentioned under no gender (my stupid mistake !)
H&P 2 Sept 1672
Isobill Coupland parents James Coupland and Margaret Moss
So 3 possibles so far.
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What is the name of your definitely confirmed ancestor who descends from Issobill? Have you got birth/baptism details.
Have you looked for wills? (available to search on SP)
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/search-records/legal-records/wills
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Thank you so much for all the information. I've started on the sites you suggested and will double check and confirm as I go. I've confirmed Isobill Langskeall on SP 24/8/1691 with parents James Langskeall and Isobill Coupland. :)
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I thought it wise to go back to a definite confirmed ancestor and tried to find her children and grandchildren, but am having difficulty. So I thought I'd go back to the earliest I could confirm on SP and I found John Spence b1754 parents John Spence and Marjory Allan. I'm going to reconfirm every step to make sure that I have the correct ancestors.
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It's always best to go backwards. Keep us posted and ask for help when you think you need it.
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I don't know if you have tried the Bayanne site which has a number (59) of Langskail(l) family names recorded in both Orkney and Shetland (The North Isles), the earliest dating before 1750.
It may be a further source to examine.
Good luck
Istrice