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Some Special Interests => Travelling People => Topic started by: Pocks98 on Tuesday 03 December 24 00:44 GMT (UK)
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Hi does anyone know of an Abraham Smith who married an Amy Loveridge? They had a son called Enoch Smith born 1887 in Henley, Oxfordshire
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https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=887108.msg7602702#msg7602702
Previous request on the same name.
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There is no marriage on file for Abraham Smith to an Amy Loveridge.
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How do you know you have the correct parents?
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I ordered the birth record & it came today
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There is no marriage on file for Abraham Smith to an Amy Loveridge.
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How do you know you have the correct parents?
I ordered the birth record & it came yesterday
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Is this Abraham and Enoch in 1891 1141/13
Hughenden Rd, Hughenden, Bucks ‘Slept in cart and tent’
John Sinfield 31 yrs head
Eliza Sinfield 27yrs wife
Spencer Draper 19 yrs Brother-in-law
Abram Draper 26 yrs Brother-in-law Tinker b Cuddington, Bucks
Sylvester Sinfield 6 yrs Daughter
Enoch Draper 3 yrs Nephew b Henley on Thames
Thomas Davis 25 yrs
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Is this Abraham and Enoch in 1891 1141/13
Hughenden Rd, Hughenden, Bucks ‘Slept in cart and tent’
John Sinfield 31 yrs head
Eliza Sinfield 27yrs wife
Spencer Draper 19 yrs Brother-in-law
Abram Draper 26 yrs Brother-in-law Tinker b Cuddington, Bucks
Sylvester Sinfield 6 yrs Daughter
Enoch Draper 3 yrs Nephew b Henley on Thames
Thomas Davis 25 yrs
Spot on with that. Yep says he’s a tinker on the birth record
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1881 census Abraham is with his father, Nelson Parker, mother and siblings
Travelling tinkers or gypsies.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKXS-LGGS
And 1871 same family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXSR-4DY
Abraham Parker’s birth is registered in 1866 Aylesbury.
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Nelson Parker was also known as Israel Draper.
This the 1861 census for the family
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7Y3-3TQ
Nelson Israel Parker / Draper was “married” to Naomi Smith
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Glad you sorted that Neale. I didn’t have time to to post.
Pocks98,
Do you know anything of Amy - her birth/census/death?
Where do you have Enoch in later records?
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Amy - just that she was a Loveridge. I imagine from the same Loveridge family Abraham descends from as well. The descendants of Abraham & Amy know other descendants of Abraham's relatives quite well & have pictures of their ancestors together so yep I think this one definitely coroborates for sure.
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Spot on Neale, great finds
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Enoch, we have in later records using the name Smith, which was Naomi's maiden name, so for whatever reason, Abraham & Enoch stopped using the names Parker/Draper & chose Smith.
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Enoch, we have in later records using the name Smith, which was Naomi's maiden name, so for whatever reason, Abraham & Enoch stopped using the names Parker/Draper & chose Smith.
Spencer (1824-1901) and Ellick (Alexander)(1841-1896) sons of William Draper and Mary Cotchin, stop using Draper and start using Smith in the later part of the 1800s. Both deaths are registered as Smith.
William's parents were another William Draper and an Eleanor who I believe to be the daughter of Medrick/Madrack/Madereck Smith and Mary/Marjeny (surname unknown) but possibly a Cooper according to Richard Edmund's "Early British Gypsy Families Volume 3 Smith".
There is a story that the Draper name stopped being used after "an incident with a gamekeeper".
The mother of Ellick's first wife Hannah Fletcher (1838-?) marriage October 1860 Brenchley Kent - was Mary Loveridge.