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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Nottinghamshire => Topic started by: kivo on Wednesday 27 November 24 21:37 GMT (UK)
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I am struggling on a few details for my ancestor Mary Layhe, born 1818 in Worksop to Richard Layhe and Elizabeth.
She married John Ward in 1837 and they had five children together (William b.1839, John b.1844, Richard b.1853, Fanny b.1855 and Joshua b.1856).
In 1858 Mary gave birth to a sixth child - my great-great grandmother (also Mary), but no father was registered. Am I to presume John had died between Joshua and Mary junior's birth and Mary junior had a different father?
The other conundrum is the details for Mary's parents Richard and Elizabeth - I can't find any marriage details for a Richard Layhe and Elizabeth in the early 19th century - could anyone point me elsewhere?
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1861 census shows her as a widow. Have you checked for a death for John? www.freebmd.org.uk
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Death
Dec qtr 1855 John Ward aged 40. Worksop 7b 14
Birth of Mary Eliza Ward was registered June qtr 1858
Birth of son Joshua Henry was registered March qtr 1856
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Baptism of Mary Eliza on 21.4.1858 @ St Mary & St Cuthbert shows her as illegitimate
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The John Ward d Q4 1855 is probably the same John Ward whose accidental death was reported in the Nottingham Journal, 16th November 1855. The article is a little long to post in its entirety.
In summary, a new pit shaft was being sunk at Shireoaks. Five men were working in the shaft when a waggon fell into the shaft. Of the five men, three were unhurt, one was injured, and the fifth man, John Ward was crushed and died (the account of his injuries is quite graphic).
Two details point to this being your John Ward:
1) His remains were conveyed to his home at Worksop (Shireoaks is to the NW of Worksop and was a separate place at that time.)
2) "Ward has left a wife very near her confinement and a numerous family totally unprovided for." This would be Joshua Henry b Q1 1856.
The Ward family living at Newgate Street in Worksop in 1851 and 1861 fits with your details. Although John Ward is recorded as Ag Lab in 1851, in 1861 his widow Mary is "formerly coal miner's wife".
If this Ward family is yours then one thing doesn't fit with your initial post: Richard, who you say was born 1853 is recorded in the 1851 census as 7 months old.
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Did your gg grandmother marry a Linacre/Linacker? If so, at her marriage she is Mary Elizabeth Kimpton Ward, father Isaac Kimpton publican and the initial K is included in the marriage registration.
This Mary Elizabeth Ward/Linacre never used the Kimpton name again (censuses, death 1923, gravestone).
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"Mary junior had a different father?"
But the birth registration in the GRO index gives surname Ward, Mother's maiden name Layhe, which makes it appear to be a legitimate birth. The church knew otherwise.
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The sinking of Shireoaks colliery took place between 1854-1859. As the name suggests Shireoaks lies against the county boundary, with Yorkshire. This was one of the deeper pits created as coal mining moved eastwards during the mid 19th cent. Trying to find the depth, I think I have found it amongst the BGS Borehole data:
But when I posted it, it came up as spam, have removed, will try again.
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Reference: SK58SE8/A
Name: SHIREOAKS COLLIERY (RHODESIA BORING)
Water Well Reference: N/A
Precision: ± 10 METRES
Length (m): 1641.8
Date: 1854
Easting: 455880
Northing: 380930
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The link to previous data is this: GeoIndex - British Geological Survey (bgs.ac.uk) (https://mapapps2.bgs.ac.uk/geoindex/home.html?layer=BGSBoreholes&_ga=2.251101894.1782360853.1732787447-1434886712.1732787447)
ADDED Search "Shireoaks" for the map. It is on the north side of the reclaimed area, where two pink dots overlap.
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Burial
John Ward 41
14th November 1855
Worksop Priory (St Mary & St Cuthbert)
Abode Newgate St
Image on Ancestry
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OK, that Newgate Street address strongly supports that I have the correct Ward family in 1851 and 1861.
Isaac Kimpton married as a widower in December 1858.
In 1861 his address is Bridge Street which is very close to Newgate Street.
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Did your gg grandmother marry a Linacre/Linacker? If so, at her marriage she is Mary Elizabeth Kimpton Ward, father Isaac Kimpton publican and the initial K is included in the marriage registration.
This Mary Elizabeth Ward/Linacre never used the Kimpton name again (censuses, death 1923, gravestone).
Yes that is a strange one too - it's likely John Ward isn't the father, but none is recorded in Mary's birth certificate - but when she marries her father is noted as Isaac Kimpton , whose name never pops up again!
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I think I may have to accept I'll not be able to pin down the actual father - John Ward having died two years before Mary's birth and Isaac Kimpton being the alternative but only appearing once officially.
I would though like to get a bit more info on Mary's parents Richard Layhe and Elizabeth - like I say I can't find any record of them other than on Mary's 1818 baptism record.
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Possible parents marriage.
Layke
Richard
Mullins
Elizabeth
13th July 1818
Derbyshire Marriages
Staveley, Derbyshire, England
Staveley approx 12 miles from Worksop
SS
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Marriage on IGI transcribed as Layhe,
both sign the register
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGKZ-38LF
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What was Richard's occupation when Mary was baptised?
Just looking at a Richard Layhe c1790
1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7S3-Q33
1851 with Brother in law William Mellars
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6V-R94
1841 Mellars with Robert and Mary Layhe
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7S9-L6R
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What was Richard's occupation when Mary was baptised?
Just looking at a Richard Layhe c1790
1841
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7S3-Q33
1851 with Brother in law William Mellars
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG6V-R94
1841 Mellars with Robert and Mary Layhe
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M7S9-L6R
Mary Layhe was baptised 7th December 1818 in Worksop.
Her abode is noted as Lead Hill.
Her parents are Richard (labourer) and Elizabeth.
When Mary married John Ward in 1837, her father is given as Richard Layke (labourer).
Other than that, I can't find any records of Richard or Elizabeth.
Obviously the July 1818 marriage in Staveley looks a contender, with Mullins>Mellors not being that much of a stretch?