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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Berkshire => Topic started by: LizzieL on Tuesday 26 November 24 10:14 GMT (UK)
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John Hedges of Letcombe (it doesn't say whether Regis or Bassett) wrote a will in December 1752, leaving everything to his wife Dorothy and after her death to his daughter Sarah (and her heirs forever) , who at that point should pay £10 to her sister Mary or her son Charles. I read that as being to Mary's son Charles, a contingency if Mary should pre-decease her mother, Dorothy.
I can find baptisms for Sarah and Mary in Letcombe Regis daughters of John and Dorothy, Sarah in Jan 1727, Mary in Sept 1725. The transcript also shows birthdate only a few days before baptism.
It is surprising that Sarah gets the larger portion being the younger, but perhaps Mary had married a better off man.
The will was proved in 1753, but I can't find John's death
Can anyone find John and Dorothy's marriage and his burial, and marriages for the two daughters, please
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I've managed to find John's burial on 23 Dec 1732, note on transcript says died on 20th. Transcribed as Hedgis. Unfortunately no age at death.
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Hi LizzieL,
On FamilysSearch , they are quoting John Hedges as being bapt. 7-4-1676 Purton, Wilts and a marriage to Dorothy Compton 3-10-1709 in Dauntsey, Wilts followed with a bapt. for Sarah Hodges in 1726 Letcombe Regis.
John Hedges was the s/o John Hedges & Katherine Clarke.
This may be the connection you are after.
John Hedges bur 23-12-1752 (died 20-12)
& Dorothy Hedges (died 25-12) bur. 27-12-1764 both Letcombe Regis (ex Berks FHS burial CD)
Alan
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Thanks. Checked out the John Hedges of Purton. He was the twin of James, both died within days of their birth, so cannot be the John I'm looking for
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followed with a bapt. for Sarah Hodges in 1726 Letcombe Regis.
Sarah's baptism cannot be in 1726 as Mary was born 03 Sep 1725 and baptised 05 Sep 1725. Although Sarah's transcription says Birth date 07 Jan 1726, Baptism date 08 Jan 1726, there is not enough gap after Mary's birth.
So Jan 1726 has to be the month coming after December 1726, what we would call Jan 1727 now, but not then when the year started on Lady Day in March.
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Hi LizzieL,
This is the info I have found in the transcripts for L/Regis (ex OxonFHS);
Mary Headgis, born 16-9, bapt. 5-9-1725/6 - I think it should be 1725
Sarah Hedges, born 7-1, bapt. 8-1-1726/7 - " " " " " 1727
Alan
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Hi LizzieL,
This is the info I have found in the transcripts for L/Regis (ex OxonFHS);
Mary Headgis, born 16-9, bapt. 5-9-1725/6 - I think it should be 1725
Sarah Hedges, born 7-1, bapt. 8-1-1726/7 - " " " " " 1727
Alan
I agree, it would only be the first three months of a year where there is likely to be ambiguity.
I have not found any earlier children for John and Dorothy anywhere, so I am sceptical about a 1709 marriage - a 14 year gap between marriage and first child then another in quick succession - doesn't seem likely.
But I can't find any other John / Dorothy combination.
The John who married Dorothy Compton was from Purton according to marriage record, but not the one numerous tree owners have chosen because he died a few days after baptism. Maybe his parents had a replacement John a few years later.
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Hi
There is a Sarah Hedges married John Head a Farmer on 17th Nov 1766 at St Andrews Letcombe Regis. John Head was bapt 1st Sept 1732 in L/R, parents Edward & Hannah.
John Head died 2nd April 1798, buried 4th April 1798, L/R & Sarah Head a Widow died 12th Jan 1809 buried 18th Jan 1809 again L/R. Unfortunately no ages at death recorded.
This could be your Sarah but not having any luck with Mary.
Maddie
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As a follow up I have looked at the Daunstey transcripts and their names (Hedges etc & Compton) do not appear anywhere apart from the marriage. Could they have been "sojourners"
In Purton there is a John Hedges bapt. 1676 but nothing for Dorothy.
Alan
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In Purton there is a John Hedges bapt. 1676 but nothing for Dorothy.
Alan
Transcript on FindMyPast = Purton register
John Hedges - Baptism date 07 Apr 1676 father John - note: twin
James Hedges - Baptism date 07 Apr 1676 father John - note: twin
John Hedges s/o John note twin burial 07 Apr 1676
James Hedges s/o John burial 23 Apr 1676
But it does seem odd that the dates for John's burial is the same. maybe an error in transcript
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I've now found image of register on Ancestry. No sign of John's burial on that date, so it has been mis-transcribed, so John b 1676 is back in the running.
The parish record doesn't say John and James were twins but the BT does. I presume whoever made the transcript decided to add a bit more detail.
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As a follow up I have looked at the Daunstey transcripts and their names (Hedges etc & Compton) do not appear anywhere apart from the marriage. Could they have been "sojourners"
In Purton there is a John Hedges bapt. 1676 but nothing for Dorothy.
Alan
The register image says he was of Purton and she was otp, but that might mean only 3 weeks residency
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Hi
There is a Sarah Hedges married John Head a Farmer on 17th Nov 1766 at St Andrews Letcombe Regis. John Head was bapt 1st Sept 1732 in L/R, parents Edward & Hannah.
John Head died 2nd April 1798, buried 4th April 1798, L/R & Sarah Head a Widow died 12th Jan 1809 buried 18th Jan 1809 again L/R. Unfortunately no ages at death recorded.
This could be your Sarah but not having any luck with Mary.
Maddie
Thank you, it's a possibility, she would be 39 when married.
When this Sara died, administration was granted to her daughter Ann Jenkinson wife of Thomas Jenkinson.
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Just been thinking ..
When John Hedges mentioned Sarah in his will (or her unnamed heirs forever ), she got everything (except £10) after her mother died. Mary or her son Charles were recipients of £10 from Sarah on her mother's death. I think that meant that Sarah was unmarried at that point (December 1752). Maybe her getting more than Mary was a contingency in case she did not marry. So marriage to John Head at 39 is looking more likely. I can only find one child - the daughter Ann, born the year after marriage.
So who was the Sarah Hedges who married William Partridge in 1748 in Sparsholt, but later lived and both died in Letcombe Bassett? This couple were my 5 x great grandparents
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Hi
Sarah & William Partridge married in Shrivenham 24th April 1748, William was of Sparsholt & Sarah of Shrivenham. There is a Sarah Hedges bapt 3rd Feb 1722 in Shrivenham, parents Charles & Mary.
Any help at all.
Maddie
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Thank you, this is probably the marriage. I had same date in Sparsholt, but it was from a transcript and it may have been banns read in William's parish.
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This does seem to be the same marriage. There are trees on Ancestry that have Charles born 1679 in Shrivenham & marrying Mary Prestwood in Preshute Wiltshire 12th June 1704 along with all their children including Sarah born 1722 in Shrivenham.
Hope it helps.
Maddie
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I've just looked at the Preshute marriage and it does say that Charles (or both) was/were from the parish of "Shrivingham". I've also discovered that two of the trees that have this line are from my very distant DNA matches, whom I hadn't made a link to previously.
And, what's even more weird, I looked on FindMyPast for Hedges born in Shrivenham with parents Charles and Mary from 1704 to 1730 and it highlighted that I had already looked up Charles and his daughter Jane (Sarah's sister). Then I remembered, in another branch of the family I have a Jane Hedges b abt 1723 marrying a John Eltham, and Charles and Mary were a possibility for her parents.
If that Jane is Sarah's sister, then Sarah's great granddaughter married Jane's great grandson and the couple became my 2 x great grandparents.
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That's good 😊, looking like it's all coming together. I've been surprised before now on looking back at old research that what didn't seem to have any connection suddenly does & then makes sense. :)
Maddie
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Following on from "Maddie" earlier posting;
Shrivenham, Berks
Charles Hedges was bapt. 21-4-1679 (s/o John & Mary)
Charles Hedges bapt. 8-8-1720
Sarah " " 1-2-1722/23
Jane " " 5-3-1724/25
Edward " " 17-12-1726
Alan
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Thanks Alan, I've now found a total of eleven children for Charles and Mary !. Now to find what happened to the other ten and see if I can confirm if sister Jane was the one who married John Eltham.
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Henry Hedges, the oldest one, made a will in 1746 (same year he died) he mentions only 9 siblings, his wife Hannah and mother Mary Lewis (so looks like Charles died and she remarried).The missing sibling is sister Mary (1707), so she either pre-deceased him, or they fell out.
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Hi LizzieL,
The missing sibling is sister Mary (1707)
Not sure if this marriage is of help, or needed - she seems rather young - but they could marry at a young age then.
Shrivenham.
22-4-1722 Mary Hedges - m - William Arnold (Polton) - have not been able to find "Polton" so have no idea where he came from.
Alan
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Thanks I had seen that marriage but thought she would be too young. The licence transcript is on FindMyPast. Two bondsmen from Bourton (near Shrivenham) - John Taylor and John Pinnell. I can't find a Polton, but there is a Poulton (Gloucestershire) about 12 miles from Shrivenham (as the crow flies).
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Hi LizzieL,
My Wilts MLB CD reveals William Arnold of POULTON
So that clears the doubt up of where he came from.
Alan