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Title: 1674 Bondl squiggle
Post by: Llanfihangel on Wednesday 20 November 24 21:13 GMT (UK)

Hi, Please have a look at the underlined text in this 1674 Bond downloaded from the Library of Wales.
Is Hugh Beavan a Yeoman or a Gentleman?
All replies gratefully acknowledged

Thanks!

Llanfi  :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

Title: Re: 1674 Bondl squiggle
Post by: goldie61 on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:00 GMT (UK)

Well I'd say it starts with a 'g' Llanfihangel, comparing that letter to the 'g' in Hugh's name on the line above.
Is there a 'y' somewhere in the text to compare it to?

I see the other man, William de Battell, is given the same nomenclature. Any idea who he was? if he was the local squire then you may able able to deduce they were both 'gentlemen'.

Title: Re: 1674 Bondl squiggle
Post by: GR2 on Wednesday 20 November 24 22:50 GMT (UK)

It says gen with a backward curling line at the end to indicate that the word is abbreviated, so both are gentlemen.

Title: Re: 1674 Bondl squiggle
Post by: Llanfihangel on Wednesday 20 November 24 23:41 GMT (UK)

Hello Goldie61 1nd GR2 😊The other Bounder was Humphrey Williams Gent of Battle, so it is likely that Hugh Beavan was also a "gent". The squiggle before the "gent" may have been "idem"  latin for "same" (In the same Parish of Battle, Breconshire.

Thanks for your help and expertise!

 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) Llanfi

Title: Re: 1674 Bondl squiggle
Post by: GR2 on Thursday 21 November 24 00:06 GMT (UK)

Humphrey is de Battell in com. Brecon. gen. -"of Battle in the County of Brecon, gent."

Hugh is de ead[em] in Com[itatu] p[redicto?] gen. - "of the same [parish] in the county foresaid, gent."

Title: Re: 1674 Bondl squiggle
Post by: Llanfihangel on Thursday 21 November 24 05:46 GMT (UK)

Perfect!
Thanks!
Llanfi
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