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Title: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: hevside on Sunday 17 November 24 17:12 GMT (UK)
Hello

I am struggling to find any info on 4 children (Rawlings by name) who, in 1921, are resident in the St Mary's Road Children's Home.

I cannot find their birth records or any of them in 1911. I am hoping that there are some admission record or the like available somewhere?

Any help much appreciated

Heather
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 17 November 24 17:18 GMT (UK)
Please give their names/ages/birthplaces
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: hevside on Sunday 17 November 24 17:26 GMT (UK)
These are the ages from the 1921 census:
Rawlings Olive 13 yr 11m
Rawlings David 10 yr 1 m
Rawlings Esther 7 yr 4m
Rawlings Thomas 11 yr 11m

all stated to be born in Basingstoke, mother dead

Thank you
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 17 November 24 17:37 GMT (UK)
It is the workhouse childrens home :)

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/PortseaIsland/#google_vignette
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 17 November 24 17:43 GMT (UK)
maybe  :-\

ROWLINS, OLIVE       - 
GRO Reference: 1907  June Quarter in ALTON  Volume 02C  Page 194
 
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 17 November 24 17:45 GMT (UK)
Just beat me to it Rosie ;D
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 17 November 24 17:48 GMT (UK)
 :-\

Birth Jun qtr 1914   
CHANDLER    Esther    mmn Rawlings    Alton    2c   368

CHANDLER, DAVID  CHARLES     mmn RAWLINGS 
GRO Reference: 1911  J Quarter in ALTON  Volume 02C  Page 173
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: hevside on Sunday 17 November 24 23:33 GMT (UK)
The address on the 1921 is Parish of Portsmouth Children's Home, 138 St Mary's Road, Portsmouth, I believe it was added on to the workhouse.

Rosie99, that Chandler one looks very possible, I will investigate them.
Huge thanks
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 18 November 24 00:30 GMT (UK)
The only Chandler/Rawlings marriage was 1903 in Islington & that family can be found on the 1911 but no daughter Olive

2 things - Rawlings may have been previously married in which case any marriage to Chandler would be under her previous married name but Chandler births would show her true maiden name

Why were the children in the childrens home under Rawlings if Esther & David were Chandler?
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: CaroleW on Monday 18 November 24 00:46 GMT (UK)
Longshot

There is a David Rawlings on the 1939 register in Cornwall whose birthdate matches a June 1911 birth reg.    There is no David Rawlings birth reg in any qtr 1910-1912
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: rosie99 on Monday 18 November 24 10:53 GMT (UK)
It is the workhouse childrens home :)

https://www.workhouses.org.uk/PortseaIsland/#google_vignette

On that link under records it indicates that Portsmouth History Centre has a register of children 1901-47.  Could they be the childrens home entries.   It also mentions that FindMyPast have admission and discharge records that are over 100 years old, could they include the childrens home
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: hevside on Monday 18 November 24 17:16 GMT (UK)
Thank you Rosie, I have checked those available on FindMyPast, without success. I live in Lancashire so don't have access to the Portsmouth records office.

I have now seen the birth certs for Olive, David and Esther and they all have the same mother. She is Amelia Chandler formerly Rawlings who died in 1917 at the age of 37 in Basingstoke so am happy that this is the right family. These families are all travellers so there have been many name changes and non-marriages along the way!

Thank you all for your massive help as I now have enough to proceed further.

Heather
Title: Re: St Mary's Road Children's Home, Portsmouth help please
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 19 November 24 16:35 GMT (UK)
I am pleased that we have found the right childrens births, I can't see one for Thomas in Alton RD.
At least you can progress a bit more with it now  :)