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Title: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Penholder on Saturday 16 November 24 22:02 GMT (UK)
I'm attaching a scan of part of the 1921 census with 'MK' in the column for marital status.   It looks as if it has been added by the enumerator.   It has me baffled, but there is something something similar for the next person enumerated (supposedly her lodger) in his 1919 Fishery Reserve enrolment document.   Hopefully I can attach that too but if not I'll add it next.
Many thanks,
Diana
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Penholder on Saturday 16 November 24 22:11 GMT (UK)
Sadly the first attachment didn't attach and I can't add it now even by changing its name.   It definitely says 'MK' with the next 3 entries saying 'single'.   The first of those is the chap whose Fishery scan has attached.
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 16 November 24 22:17 GMT (UK)
Have you considered  N/K - Not known.
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Penholder on Saturday 16 November 24 22:20 GMT (UK)
Another attempt at attaching it!  I think it's 'MK'
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 16 November 24 22:51 GMT (UK)
Can you give the ref to the household or other identifier so that I can look at the entry.
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 16 November 24 23:01 GMT (UK)
I think these are the possible answers to the column that you show:

From ONS Guide to the 1921 Census


Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 16 November 24 23:58 GMT (UK)
From what I have discovered, the person is widowed. That column in your snip is really a double question - marital status and parents alive/dead if they are 15 and under.   I don't see what MK can mean. Also, very little information is given for that person - just name and age.   As your clip shows, the letters are in a different hand than the person who completed the form as marital status was not completed, so it could be MK, maybe missing an N - meaning marital status not known or NK - meaning  the same, It should say 'widowed'  :-\

Gadget
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Jon_ni on Sunday 17 November 24 00:20 GMT (UK)
anything in green ink was added by the clerks when they were collating info for producing their statistical reports (rather than the enumerator who collected the forms). Whatever it means is a code they used for the black ink on the page entered by the householder. From the comments the person was an adult with no marital status so is some sort of code for what they entered on the person's punch card. There is a picture of the mechanical machine they used to process the data in the days before computers in this blog https://www.findmypast.co.uk/blog/family-records/taking-1921-census

and of a card https://mlfhs.uk/blog/census-1921-how-the-census-was-processed

below the Findmypast picture is the explaination "Before the census schedules reached the punch-card girls, however, each one was examined by a clerical officer who made annotations in a distinctive green ink. Presumably, green was chosen as a colour it was thought unlikely that householders would use it when filling in their forms. Principal among the green-ink annotations is the coding of occupation, but you may see others in different parts of the forms."
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Gadget on Sunday 17 November 24 00:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Jon - an aside:

Those machines were used well into the 1950s and 1960s  ;D ;D  I was part of a team who designed a medical data base in the 1970s. The data on the cards  were transferred to computer and a large research DB resulted.
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Jon_ni on Sunday 17 November 24 01:06 GMT (UK)
Gadget
The guidelines do suggest it should be n.k. (N/K as you suggested) in Miscellaneous instructions for clerks regarding revision of schedules.
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01thy/

And amongst that folder is a 3 page reminder of the Objects of the census
https://www.rootschat.com/links/01thz/
a lengthy version of the general UK census National Archive comment
"The object of the census was not to obtain detailed information about individuals, but to provide information about the population as a whole; listing everyone by name, wherever they happened to be on a single night, was the most efficient way to count everybody once, and nobody twice."
hence the comment Columns (a) and (b) name and relationship to head - the particulars entered into these columns will not require revision. They didn't use them.
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Andrew Tarr on Sunday 17 November 24 10:06 GMT (UK)
It definitely says 'MK' with the next 3 entries saying 'single'.   The first of those is the chap whose Fishery scan has attached.
Sorry, I don't agree with 'definitely'.  When I see what is written, in a limited-choice box, I assume it to be shorthand for Not Known - meaning that the filler-in is unsure of the facts, that's all ?
Title: Re: What does this mean, please?
Post by: Penholder on Sunday 17 November 24 11:42 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your helpful replies, they are much appreciated.

Diana