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Hi all on Henry foreman my 2xgrandfathers WW1 Assention papers 70869 Royal garrison of Artillery he was medicaly discharged in 1917 after spending time in Maidenhead Asylum,on the records it states illness hereditary as his father Henry Foreman b1839,spent 6 years in an asylum,I can't read the name of place but it looks like hove,although at the time he was living in London, is there any way of finding out more about his time in the Asylum.cheers Roy.
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Normally the records of people admitted to an asylum are held in that local county's Archives.
You could contact the County Archives and ask if they hold the records of inmates. If they do, then there would be a cost to obtain the copies.
My Gt Grandfather spent his last years in an asylum in Lancashire and I was able to obtain copies of the details from Lancashire Archives. Usually a 100 year closure applies to such records.
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Thanks for the info,unfourtunatly as I said in my post The only clue I have is the poor writing that looks like asylum area was hove,would someone from London be sent there.
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I have access to the service record, can you please tell me where it says "Hove" as I can't see it. Thanks.
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I think I've found it.
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Could it be two asylums?
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I've been looking at Henry's pension record and as I read it, in 1901 he gave himself up to the police in Penge - to take care of him - as he feared doing harm to himself or others, after which he was admitted to Maidstone Asylum for six months, but had not been in an asylum since.
After his discharge in 1916 he originally classified as fit for further service, but then reclassified as unfit owing to loss of memory.
I also wonder if it states that his father spent 6 years in two asylums?
[snap - had typed this then went off to look at potential asylum records]
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On the first page if you mean 'Place of discharge' it reads as Hull I think. Then the next page says Cricket Pavilion, Hull.
Probably the death of his 7 year old son lead to his loss of memory as well as the war, poor man.
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hi all again, looking at the writing again now it has been pointed out I would agree the word I Thought was (hove)is more like (two) without the crossbar on the T. :I should have paid more attention to real writing lessons in school: Looking at Henrys discipline record I am surprised he lasted as long as he did.thanks for any info.
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On the first page if you mean 'Place of discharge' it reads as Hull I think. Then the next page says Cricket Pavilion, Hull.
Probably the death of his 7 year old son lead to his loss of memory as well as the war, poor man.
Hi haliared,I cannot find the Hull and Pavilion pages on the download from forces records site, can you highlight them for me,thanks
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I looked at the FindMyPast record, they also have a copy of the son's death certificate on his records.
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hi I have the death cert on forces war records, just the bit about Hull cricket pavilion I can't find looks like I joined the wrong site?cheers
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You can buy individual records from FindMyPast with a free account. As I have a subscription at the moment I can't see how much it will be. Previous records have cost me 50p-£1.50 (except 1921 census) You get the price before you commit so nothing to lose.
I got a 4 page military record for £1, this is much bigger (24 pages).
https://www.findmypast.co.uk/help/articles/4405440232977-what-are-findmypast-micropayments-
Foreman soldier number 70869
Click on the icon for services record, then pay to view, then commitment shy.
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It is on the second page (for me) and the box has a number 8 and says :-
Certificate to be signed by the soldier on discharge.
I hereby acknowledge that I have received all my pay and allowances (including clothing allowance), and all just demands up to the present date, subject to the reservations of the claims noted on the 3rd page.
Place: Cricket Pavilion, Hull; Signature of Soldier: Henry Foreman; Date: 9th June 1917; Signature of Witness: W Freer, R.S.M.
(When a soldier is absent through illness or any other cause, and it is not desirable to forward these proceedings to him for a signature, a manuscript copy should be sent for the man to sign, and when returned should be attached here.)
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Thanks for all the help I have been over the papers I got from Forces war records site and that page is missing I am waiting for a response from them,
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further to finding out that records on forces site were incomplete I will now search for, Henry via his unit 27 AA RGA stationed at Hull.
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I think this is his medal card in case you don't have it already. You can download it for free once you sign in, creating an 'account' is free too.
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3522951
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thanks for the info,I have info for the victory medal, service medal and war badge, after Henry was medically discharged, I appreciate al the help I have been given on here.