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Title: Gladstone in 1851 Scremerston
Post by: peterarkell on Tuesday 13 September 05 17:20 BST (UK)
I am trying to establish the origins of my great great grandfather, James Gladston who was born in Belford in 1783.  Could somebody look up Scremerston Colliery in the 1851 census to see if there was a Margaret and an Isabella living there.  They were the children of John Gladstone and Phyllis Richardson.

Peter Arkell
Title: Re: Gladstone in 1851 Scremerston
Post by: Trini on Tuesday 27 September 05 20:39 BST (UK)
Hello Peter,

Couldn't see any GLADSTONE's in Scremerston.  How old would these ladies have been in 1851?  Is there a possiblilty that they were married by then?

Regards,
Trini.
Title: Re: Gladstone in 1851 Scremerston
Post by: emjay on Thursday 29 September 05 16:37 BST (UK)
Hello Peter,

There are no Gladstones in Scremerston in the 1851 that I can see. You didn't ask for the 1841, but just in case you haven't got it -

1841 - Scremerston Blue Houses.
Gladson, John, 30, Collier
Fillis, 30
Alexander 7
Mary 4
John 2
All born in County.

Myra
Title: Re: Gladstone in 1851 Scremerston
Post by: Michael Dixon on Thursday 29 September 05 21:59 BST (UK)
Peter,

Belford Parish.

Baptism
18th Aug 1783.
James son of John and Mary GLEDSTONE of Belford.

8th May 1785.
Barbara dtr of John GLEDSTONE of Belford Moor.

Marriage.
13 Feb 1783.
Mary GLEDSTONE >< William Foster
Witnesses Thomas Young & John Thirlwell

( No sign of John Gledstone/Gladstone marriage from 1770> )

Census 1851.. No Gladston(e)/Gledson(e) in Islandshire, which includes Scremerston.

Michael Dixon,
Blyth, Northumberland


Title: Re: Gladstone in 1851 Scremerston
Post by: peterarkell on Sunday 02 October 05 18:23 BST (UK)
Thank you very much for looking up the Gladston family.  These are indeed the right people.
In view of all the accidents that happened in the coal mines, how were people enticed to go down the pits.

Peter
Title: Re: Gladstone in 1851 Scremerston
Post by: Michael Dixon on Monday 03 October 05 10:48 BST (UK)
Peter,

Money.

Agricultural labourers from Ireland, Norfolk, Suffolk, etc, flocked to pits in Northumberland & Durham, and elsewhere in the 1800s.

Not because they wanted to be coal miners, but because they had to find an alternative to "land" work
( because of failed harvests etc, leading to evictions from "tied" accommodation) to put food on the table.

Coal mines were very dangerous, but so to were other elements of the Industrial Revolution. e.g. shipbuilding, ralways, bridge-building, chemical industry, etc.

The Irish, and others, would be faced with an ongoing dilemma.... " Would we rather be starving in beautiful Ireland or eating off our table here in Grottsville Colliery ? "

Few went back.

Michael Dixon,
Blyth, Northumberland