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Title: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: AsH62 on Wednesday 06 November 24 11:56 GMT (UK)
In 1901 Charles Webb b.1888 Hull was on board the Southampton Industrial School ship. By 1906 he had joined the navy full time but I can't find his records for 1911 .
Does anyone have any suggestions about where to find them please?
He was on the Impregnable from 1907-1914 so presumable the documents will be connected to the Navy.

Thanks
Alison
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: GrahamSimons on Wednesday 06 November 24 12:11 GMT (UK)
As a starting point....
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/royal-navy-ratings-up-to-1913/
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 06 November 24 12:17 GMT (UK)
The record for Charles Webb, DoB 11 May 1888, signed on 11 May 1906 shows him serving aboard the Britannia 21 Oct 1910 to 14 Oct 1912.

Was the Britannia a training/cadet ship at Portsmouth.
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 06 November 24 12:47 GMT (UK)
I can see an HMS Britannia, Captain George A Ballard, in 1911. Trying to pin it down to 2 Apr 1911 when Census was taken.
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: AsH62 on Wednesday 06 November 24 12:55 GMT (UK)
Ah, finally a fact that I can chase, thank you!
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 06 November 24 13:16 GMT (UK)
Army and Navy Gazette, 1 Apr 1911
THE HOME FLEET - SECOND DIVISION
SECOND BATTLE SQUADRON
Britannia, Capt G Ballard

They were in Ireland in July 1911.

Note - I've ruled out the Royal Yacht Britannia!!
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: AsH62 on Wednesday 06 November 24 13:18 GMT (UK)
Yay, that's fantastic, this is a whole new area of research for me and it's a steep learning curve.
Thanks
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: hanes teulu on Wednesday 06 November 24 13:52 GMT (UK)
While Ballard is named as Captain, his predecessor was being received by the King about the same time. The item appeared in the Army and Navy Gazette, 1 Apr 1911 - snippet attached.
The Western Morning News reported HMS Britannia departing Portland 30 March 1911 - snippet attached
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: AsH62 on Wednesday 06 November 24 16:27 GMT (UK)
This is fascinating stuff, thank you
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: bbart on Sunday 10 November 24 08:58 GMT (UK)
Just in case you missed seeing some replies in your old post:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=858236.0

Treetotal posted an interesting link (reply #5) in that thread.
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: bbart on Sunday 10 November 24 09:25 GMT (UK)
FindMyPast has a lot of records free to view this weekend;  I don't know if you have to register or not.

This is a direct link to the fellow hanes teulu is chasing, and note that his record is continued onto the next page as well:
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FADM188%2F410%2F0%2F0052&parentid=GBM%2FADM188%2F29038

To find him in the 1921 (which I think is also free this weekend), just enter his name, year of birth, and under Advanced Options, put in Royal Navy, or you'll be scrolling through a lot of men with the same name!
Title: Re: Southampton Industrial School ship
Post by: AsH62 on Sunday 10 November 24 15:57 GMT (UK)
Hi bbart
You are quite right I don't know why but i did miss this! How daft when it is something I really want to know about.

Thank you so much for pointing me to it and for all your help.

Alison