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Title: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: crazydaizy on Saturday 02 November 24 15:54 GMT (UK)
My Grandfather Redvers Baden Briggs (1900-1979) born Newcastle under Lyme, Staffordshire UK is listed in 1901 and 1911 Censuses and 1939 Register (when he was married to Annie)

He married my Grandmother in 1928 in Albrighton, Shropshire.  And I expect they probably went to live in West Bromwich after this.

I'm struggling to find him in 1921 Census, I've tried lots of name and place combinations.  I know he was a Police Officer (which is noted in the 1939 Register) probably around West Bromwich (where he lived when he got married) and emailed Museum@West Midlands Police for information, but they said they have no records in the early 1900s and to contact https://www.staffordshire.gov.uk/Heritage-and-archives/homepage.aspx for info, but an email was returned saying their offices are closed for major building work.

Thanks in advance for your help.



Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Saturday 02 November 24 16:51 GMT (UK)
Many Police Officers were in the Forces before becoming one.
In which case he could have been in the Army in India in 1921
What was his Occupation ion his Marriage Certificate in 1928 when he Married?
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: crazydaizy on Saturday 02 November 24 17:16 GMT (UK)
Many Police Officers were in the Forces before becoming one.
In which case he could have been in the Army in India in 1921
What was his Occupation ion his Marriage Certificate in 1928 when he Married?

Thanks for your reply.  His Occupation was listed on the Marriage Certificate as Police Constable.  There are Military records on Find My Past but apart from the name Briggs, nothing else is helpful. 
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Saturday 02 November 24 17:26 GMT (UK)
His Burnt Attestation Papers 1918 when he was Conscripted as Baden Briggs and Demobbed at Kemmel Park still exist - but like my Granddad he Enlisted on Demobbed Day and his next Army Period in the 1920s have not been Scanned by Ancestry or Findmypast because they are held in the National Archives now.
My Granddad is also missing from the 1921 Census presumably Overseas
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: JenB on Saturday 02 November 24 17:37 GMT (UK)
The army overseas was included in the 1921 census.
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: crazydaizy on Saturday 02 November 24 17:39 GMT (UK)
His Burnt Attestation Papers 1918 when he was Conscripted as Baden Briggs and Demobbed at Kemmel Park still exist - but like my Granddad he Enlisted on Demobbed Day and his next Army Period in the 1920s have not been Scanned by Ancestry or Findmypast because they are held in the National Archives now.
My Granddad is also missing from the 1921 Census presumably Overseas

Interesting, thank you.
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: crazydaizy on Saturday 02 November 24 17:39 GMT (UK)
The army overseas was included in the 1921 census.
Thank you.
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: rosie99 on Saturday 02 November 24 17:46 GMT (UK)
Where are his parents and siblings
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: Gadget on Saturday 02 November 24 18:11 GMT (UK)
The army overseas was included in the 1921 census.

Search under ~
County  - Army
Country   - Armed Forces Overseas
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: ShaunJ on Saturday 02 November 24 18:18 GMT (UK)
He was a police constable in Staffordshire in 1926

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/2e70e29e-2e86-400c-a0dd-8634d6b82247
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: crazydaizy on Sunday 03 November 24 08:21 GMT (UK)
Where are his parents and siblings

I've found his parents and siblings in 1921 censuses so that's all good.
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: crazydaizy on Sunday 03 November 24 08:22 GMT (UK)
He was a police constable in Staffordshire in 1926

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/2e70e29e-2e86-400c-a0dd-8634d6b82247

That's very helpful, thank you.  I wonder why I never found it ??? 
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: crazydaizy on Sunday 03 November 24 08:27 GMT (UK)
He was a police constable in Staffordshire in 1926

https://www.findmypast.co.uk/image-share/2e70e29e-2e86-400c-a0dd-8634d6b82247

And in the newspaper clipping "Mr Hervey" may have been his sister in law's husband (she married a Hervey so it could be one of that side of the family)
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: crazydaizy on Wednesday 06 November 24 15:53 GMT (UK)
His Burnt Attestation Papers 1918 when he was Conscripted as Baden Briggs and Demobbed at Kemmel Park still exist - but like my Granddad he Enlisted on Demobbed Day and his next Army Period in the 1920s have not been Scanned by Ancestry or Findmypast because they are held in the National Archives now.
My Granddad is also missing from the 1921 Census presumably Overseas

Hi, can you tell me where you have found this info please? You say you've found my Grandfather's "Burnt Attestation Papers 1918?" (not sure what that is) I've been told my Grandfather was not in the forces, but maybe he was(?)
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: rosie99 on Wednesday 06 November 24 16:01 GMT (UK)
His Burnt Attestation Papers 1918 when he was Conscripted as Baden Briggs and Demobbed at Kemmel Park still exist - but like my Granddad he Enlisted on Demobbed Day and his next Army Period in the 1920s have not been Scanned by Ancestry or Findmypast because they are held in the National Archives now.
My Granddad is also missing from the 1921 Census presumably Overseas

Hi, can you tell me where you have found this info please? You say you've found my Grandfather's "Burnt Attestation Papers 1918?" (not sure what that is) I've been told my Grandfather was not in the forces, but maybe he was(?)

Could they be the records of Baden Briggs born 1900, Steeton, Yorkshire  :-\
Title: Re: I can't find my Grandfather in 1921 Census
Post by: ALAMO2008 on Wednesday 06 November 24 16:32 GMT (UK)
Ooops Sorry
The Burnt Attestation Papers that I found were for Baden  Briggs born the Same September Quarter 1900 but in Keighley not Stoke On Trent  - Attestation Papers show Baden Briggs enlisted 19 June 1918 in Halifax Father's Name was John William not Richard Benjamin-  Sorry.