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Research in Other Countries => Europe => Topic started by: scottishlad on Wednesday 30 October 24 03:10 GMT (UK)
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I’m struggling to find any information about a Clara Hochner, born about 1890 in Germany. I have a few census records and the like when she’s older in the United States, however I’m trying to find information about her time in Germany. She left Germany at two years old yet I can’t find any immigration records or any mention of her parents, a birth certificate, death certificate…etc. any and all help would be much appreciated thank you!!
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What info do you have already in the US? Census records, where in US, marriage, children, etc
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This is the only Clara Hochner I can find. From the 1920 census St Louis
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8Z2-PKC
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What info do you have already in the US? Census records, where in US, marriage, children, etc
I have a 1920, 1930 census record - she lived in Philadelphia. As well as a couple death/birth certificates of family that has her name on them, but I don’t have her specific birth/death certificates
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You haven’t specifically mentioned Passenger Lists. Have you searched those?
I see someone of this name on Ancestry in their Florida Naturalisation section, but I don’t have a sub.
All Germany vital records are held at local level so you need to know the place to be able to proceed.
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You haven’t specifically mentioned Passenger Lists. Have you searched those?
I see someone of this name on Ancestry in their Florida Naturalisation section, but I don’t have a sub.
All Germany vital records are held at local level so you need to know the place to be able to proceed.
Ahh ok that explains it then. I’m not sure where she would have entered through.
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You haven’t specifically mentioned Passenger Lists. Have you searched those?
I see someone of this name on Ancestry in their Florida Naturalisation section, but I don’t have a sub.
All Germany vital records are held at local level so you need to know the place to be able to proceed.
Don't think this is her. Refers to a Clarisse (Clara) Hochner and is dated in 1981... (refers to Vietnam War)
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You haven’t specifically mentioned Passenger Lists. Have you searched those?
I see someone of this name on Ancestry in their Florida Naturalisation section, but I don’t have a sub.
All Germany vital records are held at local level so you need to know the place to be able to proceed.
Don't think this is her. Refers to a Clarisse (Clara) Hochner and is dated in 1981... (refers to Vietnam War)
No that wouldn’t be her. I realize her original German documents will be hard to find, but I figured her death certificate and probably marriage certificate should be somewhat easier given it was in America and I know where. I’ll just have to keep digging!
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If she is the Clara who married H Stratton and are in 1920 and 1930 Philadelphia census?
Surname looks like Wochner rather than Hochner on this record :
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/5164/images/42342_647680_0943-02532?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=2600a02a-9652-4d19-bfc0-fa8a411b0025&usePUB=true&_phsrc=DYR23883&_phstart=successSource&pId=754038994
Marriage of Clara Woehner(sic) to Herbert Stratton 1910 New Jersey :
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61253/records/900350723?tid=&pid=&queryid=ed25261d-4b60-40cb-a7fa-fa2aed7229ee&_phsrc=DYR23905&_phstart=successSource
1905 New Jersey census:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61557/records/674186?tid=&pid=&queryid=70b1ba48-2877-4fee-bb2e-0274bbf19b45&_phsrc=DYR23915&_phstart=successSource
Passenger list, see previous page for rest of family. Looks like the father came over earlier
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/4000361071:7488
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If she is the Clara who married H Stratton and are in 1920 and 1930 Philadelphia census?
Surname looks like Wochner rather than Hochner on this record :
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/imageviewer/collections/5164/images/42342_647680_0943-02532?treeid=&personid=&rc=&queryId=2600a02a-9652-4d19-bfc0-fa8a411b0025&usePUB=true&_phsrc=DYR23883&_phstart=successSource&pId=754038994
Marriage of Clara Woehner(sic) to Herbert Stratton 1910 New Jersey :
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61253/records/900350723?tid=&pid=&queryid=ed25261d-4b60-40cb-a7fa-fa2aed7229ee&_phsrc=DYR23905&_phstart=successSource
1905 New Jersey census:
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61557/records/674186?tid=&pid=&queryid=70b1ba48-2877-4fee-bb2e-0274bbf19b45&_phsrc=DYR23915&_phstart=successSource
Passenger list, see previous page for rest of family. Looks like the father came over earlier
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/4000361071:7488
!! I’m at work so can’t look into too much detail, but that very well could be them. The Stratton’s were from NJ, and their daughter was born in 1910 so that would match up. My grandmother believed the surname to be “Wopner”, I have a couple documents where it looks like Hochner and Wochner…etc. so perhaps it’s just error on my part transcribing or it was misrecorded…etc. thank you so much can’t wait to dive into this!
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V45W-XHQ
Baptism of Clara or Klara
Birth Date 3 Apr 1891
Father's Name Raimund Wochner
Mother's Name Zaezilia Hoener
Event Type Christening
Event Date 19 Apr 1891
Event Place Gailingen am Hochrhein, Konstanz, Baden, Deutschland
The film is not available for viewing online, but would be if you can get to a LDS family history center
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/275562?availability=Family%20History%20Library
Find a centre
https://locations.familysearch.org/en/search
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Some Pre 1870 catholic registers are online here
https://www2.landesarchiv-bw.de/ofs21/suche/ergebnis1.php
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https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:V45W-XHQ
Baptism of Clara or Klara
Birth Date 3 Apr 1891
Father's Name Raimund Wochner
Mother's Name Zaezilia Hoener
Event Type Christening
Event Date 19 Apr 1891
Event Place Gailingen am Hochrhein, Konstanz, Baden, Deutschland
The film is not available for viewing online, but would be if you can get to a LDS family history center
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/275562?availability=Family%20History%20Library
Find a centre
https://locations.familysearch.org/en/search
Yep 100% this is them thank you so much! Mother’s name was Cecilia not Zaezilia. Which was their daughter Mary’s middle name. Appears to have been a family name. Thanks so much again I really appreciate you helping me find this!!