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Title: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Thursday 24 October 24 09:23 BST (UK)
Hello
I’m trying to trace the parents of Mary Taylor who married William MacGregor Gordon in Jul 1921 in Newcastle Upon Tyne. Any help would be much appreciated please
Christian
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: heywood on Thursday 24 October 24 09:49 BST (UK)
Was she Mary Jane Gordon - died 1984 with a birthdate 4th February 1903?
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Thursday 24 October 24 10:07 BST (UK)
Was she Mary Jane Gordon - died 1984 with a birthdate 4th February 1903?

I dont know any of her dates yet, only her name and who she married
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: Neale1961 on Thursday 24 October 24 10:17 BST (UK)
Birth date 4 Feb 1903 according to 1939 reg.

Your first step is to look at the marriage certificate to obtain more information about her.
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 24 October 24 12:01 BST (UK)
1911 census shows 6 entries for a Mary Taylor with no middle name & born 1899-1903 so you need to buy the 1921 marriage cert

William was b 1903 so more likely Mary was too

One of the entries is aged 8 & in a residential school & 2 others in that age range are with parents
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 24 October 24 12:08 BST (UK)
A tree on Ancestry has her as Mary Agnes Taylor b 1905 - no other info & no supporting evidence
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: heywood on Thursday 24 October 24 13:25 BST (UK)
Was she Mary Jane Gordon - died 1984 with a birthdate 4th February 1903?

I dont know any of her dates yet, only her name and who she married

How is she connected to you? Presumably you have some idea of dates or family after 1921?

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Mary Jane Taylor b March quarter 1903 with mother’s name Rogers might fit with the given birthdate on the other records we have found.

Free BMD has a marriage - John William Taylor and Elizabeth Rogers.

You can search 1911 census on Family Search if you do not have access to other sites.

Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: CaroleW on Thursday 24 October 24 13:34 BST (UK)
With a surname like Taylor & seemingly so little other info - buy the marriage cert to establish her fathers name & occupation

Where does she fit into your FH?  Are you descended from one of her children?
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: softly softly on Thursday 24 October 24 17:56 BST (UK)
Info only re William

GORDON, WILLIAM  MCGREGOR     mother's maiden name HOGG 
GRO Reference: 1903  M Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 167

HOGG
AGNES BLACKWOOD      mother's maiden name SCOTT
1882
692 / 2 / 440
Leith South

Parents Charles Gordon & Agnes Hogg, married dq 1900 Newcastle T.

Appear together 1911 census.

Deaths Dec 1912   
Gordon    Charles    aged 30    Newcastle T.    10b   236

By 1921 Agnes has remarried (now Agnes B Spraggan)

Marriages Sep 1913   
GORDON    Agnes    Spraggon    Newcastle T.    10b   318

Deaths Dec 1960   
SPRAGGON    Agnes B    aged 78    Newcastle T.    1b   219   

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Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: heywood on Thursday 24 October 24 18:08 BST (UK)
I see that William and Mary had a daughter, Agnes.
This all looks right for 1939 and therefore Mary Taylor b 1903.
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Thursday 24 October 24 21:22 BST (UK)
Birth date 4 Feb 1903 according to 1939 reg.

Your first step is to look at the marriage certificate to obtain more information about her.
Thank you
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Thursday 24 October 24 21:23 BST (UK)
A tree on Ancestry has her as Mary Agnes Taylor b 1905 - no other info & no supporting evidence
Thank you Carole
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Thursday 24 October 24 21:24 BST (UK)
Was she Mary Jane Gordon - died 1984 with a birthdate 4th February 1903?

I dont know any of her dates yet, only her name and who she married

How is she connected to you? Presumably you have some idea of dates or family after 1921?

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Mary Jane Taylor b March quarter 1903 with mother’s name Rogers might fit with the given birthdate on the other records we have found.

Free BMD has a marriage - John William Taylor and Elizabeth Rogers.

You can search 1911 census on Family Search if you do not have access to other sites.

It’s a tree I’m doing on someone’s behalf and they have no idea about their ancestors. The information I had was purely her name and that she married William MacGregor Gordon - whose family I have already researched. It’s her parents I want to track down.
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Thursday 24 October 24 21:25 BST (UK)
With a surname like Taylor & seemingly so little other info - buy the marriage cert to establish her fathers name & occupation

Where does she fit into your FH?  Are you descended from one of her children?
Thank you. It’s a tree I’m doing on someone’s behalf and they have no idea about their ancestors. The information I had was purely her name and that she married William MacGregor Gordon - whose family I have already researched. It’s her parents I want to track down.
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: Christianmpoulsen on Thursday 24 October 24 21:26 BST (UK)
Info only re William

GORDON, WILLIAM  MCGREGOR     mother's maiden name HOGG 
GRO Reference: 1903  M Quarter in NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE  Volume 10B  Page 167

HOGG
AGNES BLACKWOOD      mother's maiden name SCOTT
1882
692 / 2 / 440
Leith South

Parents Charles Gordon & Agnes Hogg, married dq 1900 Newcastle T.

Appear together 1911 census.

Deaths Dec 1912   
Gordon    Charles    aged 30    Newcastle T.    10b   236

By 1921 Agnes has remarried (now Agnes B Spraggan)

Marriages Sep 1913   
GORDON    Agnes    Spraggon    Newcastle T.    10b   318

Deaths Dec 1960   
SPRAGGON    Agnes B    aged 78    Newcastle T.    1b   219   

SS
Thank you, yes, this matches what I’ve researched too. It is her ancestors I’m trying to trace now.
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: heywood on Thursday 24 October 24 21:54 BST (UK)
A tree on Ancestry has her as Mary Agnes Taylor b 1905 - no other info & no supporting evidence

This does not match with other records. Her death is Mary Jane Gordon, I would say.
Have you searched on Family Search?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMZ-F8S

This is worth further searching with a marriage certificate.

Possible baptism
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP9Q-6M68
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: softly softly on Friday 25 October 24 09:12 BST (UK)
Mary in census just prior to marriage.

12, Blagdon Street, Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England

Parents remained at this address at least until 1931 re electoral registers.

SS
Title: Re: William McGregor Gordon and Mary Taylor
Post by: softly softly on Friday 25 October 24 09:26 BST (UK)
Mary's parents and siblings between 1938-40

54 Gibson Street, Newcastle Upon Tyne, Newcastle-Upon-Tyne C.B., Northumberland, England

SS