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Hi,
I am a research volunteer for the "In From the Cold Project" which is dedicated to discovering the burial locations of servicemen who died due to their military service but who are not yet commemorated by the CWGC. One such person is John Niland, RN service number: 01839. He died 9th July 21, aged 51. He lived and died at 2 Burrard Rd, London, E.16. His parents were Michael and Mary Niland. I have searched for his burial in parish records but did not find anything. If there are any members who could point me in the right direction as to where to find this information I would be very grateful.
regards,
Stuart Price
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Welcome to Rootschat
The 1921 death reg supports a birthyear of 1870 but the John Niland with parents Michael & Mary in 1871 is shown as b 1866 Shropshire
Do you know who reported the 1921 death
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RN service records on Ancestry say he was born in Galway.
I can see the baptism records for at least two potential candidates, neither of whom had parents called Michael and Mary.
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Welcome to Rootschat
The 1921 death reg supports a birthyear of 1870 but the John Niland with parents Michael & Mary in 1871 is shown as b 1866 Shropshire
Do you know who reported the 1921 death
Carole,
As far as I know it was a family member who reported the death.
Stuart.
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RN service records on Ancestry say he was born in Galway.
I can see the baptism records for at least two potential candidates, neither of whom had parents called Michael and Mary.
Dave,
Thanks for the additional info regarding Niland's birth place. I will go back to Ancestry and see, if using a wild card search, I can determine what happened to him.
regards,
Stuart
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Hi
On the Pension Ledger and index cards for WW1
It looks like it says John Nilands widow was a Mary ?
Date of death was given as the 8th July, address and service number are correct
though
Claire
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The John Niland who died in 1921 with that address was 51 years old, that is around 10 years different to the person living there in the census that year. His pob does match Dave Francis's post.
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That wifes name matches Claire
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John Niland married Mary Ellen Hermitage 1885 registered Brentford.
A tree on ancestry has his DOB as 10 May 1858.
His reported age is not constant 1901 he is 37 when he was actually 43, so his age at death not being accurate could be explained.
ADDED he was R.C not C of E a Catholic burial church/area of cemetery in West Ham.
His baptism was 15 May 1858, born 10 May 1858 Kilcolgan, Galway Ireland parents Michael Niland and Mary Nee Burns.
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Two possibles
Nearest, most people from that area buried here
East London Cemetery
(East London Crematorium and Cemetery)
Grange Road, Plaistow, London E13 0HB
Or the very popular
St Patricks Roman Catholic Cemetery
Langthorne Road, Leytonstone, London E11 4HL
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1915 crew lists
https://1915crewlists.rmg.co.uk/document/205715
John Niland
Vessel: Waimana
Birthplace: Galway
Age: 42
Rank: Fireman
Previous vessel: Pakeha
See the image! (Number 6 of 9)
Says home address is 2 Barrel or Basset or Burrel (??) Rd Custom House London.
Help!
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BT 377 Registry of Shipping and Seamen: Royal Naval Reserves Ratings' Service Record Cards
Name Niland, John
Place of Birth: Galway
Number: T 1405
Date of Birth: 09 June 1870
Reference: BT 377/7/103254
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8561521
Name: Niland, John
Place of Birth: Galway
Number: U 1839
Date of Birth: 09 June 1870
Reference: BT 377/7/120573
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8581306
Lots of info on those cards
Address 2 Burrard Road Custom House E
Parents Michael & Mary
Widow Mrs. M. E. Niland
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Medal Card of Niland, John
Place of Birth: Galway
Date of Birth: 1870
Reference: BT 351/1/104791
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D8111619
All free!
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John & Mary at address below in 1921 census
2, Beuand Road, Custom House, West Ham, Essex & London, England
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