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Title: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: Boudicca95 on Tuesday 22 October 24 14:55 BST (UK)
I have been looking for any details on my ancestor William Sainsbury (b. 1st May 1858 - Grateley (Kimpton) Hampshire, England) beyond 1886. I know he joined the navy when he was 15 years old but seems to have left in 1886. I have found him in the 1861, 1871 (in Sussex living with an uncle) and 1881 census but I can't find him in the 1891 census or beyond. No marriage, no death. Can anyone help?
Thanks
Liz
Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: rosie99 on Tuesday 22 October 24 16:46 BST (UK)
Where is he in 1881  :-\
Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: Boudicca95 on Tuesday 22 October 24 17:10 BST (UK)
He was in the Royal Navy on the vessel - Euphrates. He was a stoker, I think.

I can't find him on the 1891 census and according to his records he was last on a vessel in the Royal Navy in 1886. After that - nothing.

Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 October 24 18:07 BST (UK)
Seems to have been sentenced to 42 days in the military prison Malta 18.4.1886 - 2.6.1886 but had various stays in the cells prior to that

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Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: Boudicca95 on Tuesday 22 October 24 18:36 BST (UK)
Yes - I noticed that on his naval record but I think he was in gaol 11.12.1885 for 40 days in Malta - so he would have left in early 1886. He later left the navy on 2 June 1886 as he had served his 10 years. But he certainly was in gaol quite a lot!
Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 October 24 19:55 BST (UK)
Have you already discounted the William Sainsbury b 1858 England on the Scottish 1901 census


Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: Boudicca95 on Tuesday 22 October 24 19:57 BST (UK)
Oh - I haven't seen that one. I'll have a look! Thanks.
Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: CaroleW on Tuesday 22 October 24 19:58 BST (UK)
Appears to be single & no death in Scotland - living in Berwickshire
Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: Boudicca95 on Tuesday 22 October 24 20:02 BST (UK)
Could be a possibility. Shame there's no death!
Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: willyam on Wednesday 23 October 24 10:42 BST (UK)
FindMyPast and Scotland's People also index a William Sainsbury in the 1891 census - birth year 1859/age 22. The census location is shown as North Knapdale, Argyllshire.

Might be a connection with the 1901 record in Berwickshire? 
Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: Boudicca95 on Wednesday 23 October 24 12:47 BST (UK)
Sounds interesting. Thanks. I'll check.
Title: Re: William Sainsbury - can't trace beyond 1886
Post by: Boudicca95 on Wednesday 23 October 24 12:52 BST (UK)
It's the same person in the 1891 census and 1901. He's a groom/domestic servant on both. No trace in the 1881 census in Scotland which would fit. Very interesting.