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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Gloucestershire => Topic started by: BeckyCrossan on Monday 21 October 24 14:35 BST (UK)
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Hello,
I've come up something in my research where somebody has written to a magazine and ended the letter with their name, followed by Glow (where someone would traditionally say where they were from). Has Gloucestershire ever colloquially been shortened to 'Glow'?
I've already been in contact with the Postal Museum who don't have anything officially listed that would suggest Gloucestershire could be sometimes called Glow, but I did find that even today Gloucester is known as Caerloyw in modern Welsh. And that the Old English name was Glewe/Gleawe.
Does anybody know if I'm correct in this?
Thank you in advance, any insights would be super appreciated!
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What date are you talking about - for example
Gloucester Journal, Dec 17 1938
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Can I just check your source? Are you reading the original magazine page or an OCR transcript of the original. It's remarkable how many instances of "Glow" appear under the OCR transcript but the original reads "Glou" or "Glos".
Are you seeing "the real thing"?
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National Archives
Held by: Gloucestershire Archives
Date: 1805-1930
'Caer Glow" (formerly The Retreat), CAM, and 3r. 26p
Reference: D4453/61
Description:
'Caer Glow (formerly The Retreat) Cam, and 3r 26p pasture (part of the estate of THOMAS GABB, d1877 Cam and Coaley.
Including office copy will of Robert DAVIES Underwood, Coaley Mills, edge tool manufacturer, pr 1827, sale particulars, 1r 36p. Lower Halmore's Field, Coaley, 1865, office copy will of Susanna King, Cam, widow pr 1898 etc etc.
(jn: Leonard, Underwood family, Thos Hardwick, Thos. Gabb, Geo Packer, Hen. Ruther, Fry Family, Wm. Turner, Thos and Susanna King - Arthur and Kate Ashbee)
DateL 1805-1930.
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From: Forest of Dean Marriage Allegations (on line)
2 July 1810
Thomas GABB - Farmer
Residence: COWLEY (as spelt)
Hannah HATHWAY -
Residence: COWLEY
By Bond:
witness one: Samuel GABB a Farmer of COWLEY
The Licence gives the age of Thomas as 28 and Hannah aged 39
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What date are you talking about - for example
Gloucester Journal, Dec 17 1938
Thank you for this! This was in the 1970s, but I suspect the person was alive in the 30s so it could well be a colloquialism that's a hang on from an earlier time.
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National Archives
Held by: Gloucestershire Archives
Date: 1805-1930
'Caer Glow" (formerly The Retreat), CAM, and 3r. 26p
Reference: D4453/61
Description:
'Caer Glow (formerly The Retreat) Cam, and 3r 26p pasture (part of the estate of THOMAS GABB, d1877 Cam and Coaley.
Including office copy will of Robert DAVIES Underwood, Coaley Mills, edge tool manufacturer, pr 1827, sale particulars, 1r 36p. Lower Halmore's Field, Coaley, 1865, office copy will of Susanna King, Cam, widow pr 1898 etc etc.
(jn: Leonard, Underwood family, Thos Hardwick, Thos. Gabb, Geo Packer, Hen. Ruther, Fry Family, Wm. Turner, Thos and Susanna King - Arthur and Kate Ashbee)
DateL 1805-1930.
Brilliant, thank you for this!
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Can I just check your source? Are you reading the original magazine page or an OCR transcript of the original. It's remarkable how many instances of "Glow" appear under the OCR transcript but the original reads "Glou" or "Glos".
Are you seeing "the real thing"?
This is from the original magazine, but it didn't even occur to me that 'Glow' could be a typo and might have been meant to be 'Glou' or 'Glos'. Thank you!
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Google books has quotes from 1738, 1789 etc.
Simeon Moreau.
The City of Gloucester
The ancient British name was Caer Glow, Caer fignifies a city, and Glow fair, a name it well deferves, being a fair city, firft built by Arvitagus A.D. 47 in honour of Claudius, the 5th Roman Emperor, whofe daughter he is faid to have married. Antoninus Puis, the 16th Emperor, called it Glevum.