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Title: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: Lgugg on Sunday 20 October 24 17:04 BST (UK)
Hi, I've been looking into my ancestor Elizabeth Keelan (on some records she has Ann as a middle name). She was born about 1863 in Sunderland and married James Butler. In the 1891 census, her father is living with her and he is listed as John Keelan, born in 1841 in Ireland. I've been trying to find any census records or birth registration records for Elizabeth but I can't seem to find any before her marriage. Thank you for your help! :)
Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 20 October 24 17:22 BST (UK)
For anyone looking for the family in 1891 Ancestry has John as John Kemling living Southwick, Durham - Piece 4146 folio 84 page 38

ADDED
FindMyPast have Elizabeth as Batler and John as Hamling
Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: Kay99 on Sunday 20 October 24 17:26 BST (UK)
Did Elizabeth marry as Keeling?

Marriages Dec 1884 
BUTLER    James         Sunderland    10a   782   
KEELING    Elizabeth         Sunderland    10a   782

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Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 20 October 24 17:37 BST (UK)
Daughter Mary's birth registration
BUTLER, MARY       mmn KEELING 
GRO Reference: 1889  Dec Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 615
Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: Lgugg on Sunday 20 October 24 17:39 BST (UK)
Thank you! I'll try and do some research with the Keeling surname and see if I can find any census or birth records.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 20 October 24 17:40 BST (UK)
Back in May 2020 somebody notified an 1891 mistranscription on Ancestry saying that children's birth  certs showed mmn Keelan.  Have you found her on earlier censuses
Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: rosie99 on Sunday 20 October 24 17:46 BST (UK)
I can't see any birth registrations for Butler / Keelan or Keeling prior to Mary  :-\


BUTLER, PETER    mmn   KEELAN 
GRO Reference: 1891  D Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 670
 
Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: Lgugg on Sunday 20 October 24 17:49 BST (UK)
I haven't managed to find her on earlier censuses yet. Is there a possibility that there is a different spelling of the surname that it could be under as her father John was from Ireland?
Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: jonwarrn on Sunday 20 October 24 18:01 BST (UK)
Maybe
KEENAN, ELIZA       
Mother's Maiden Surname:  
GRO Reference: 1882  J Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 712

BUTLER, JOHN       
Mother's Maiden Surname KEENING 
GRO Reference: 1885  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 673

BUTLER, JAMES       
Mother's Maiden Surname KEEL 
GRO Reference: 1887  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 626
Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: Lgugg on Sunday 20 October 24 18:07 BST (UK)
Thank you! Yes the first names and birth years match up and I think Eliza was born before they got married.
Title: Re: Elizabeth Keelan
Post by: willsy on Sunday 03 November 24 22:38 GMT (UK)
Have you had a look at Ellen Keelan in the 1901 census, she is above James and Elizabeth?

From the paper

Sunderland Daily Echo and Shipping Gazette
28 April 1902


Ellen Keeling, died at the same address as 1901 and was the relict of Michael Keeling, she was to be interred at Mere Knolls Cemetery

Michael died 1 Aug 1900 after an accident at work; same address

1881

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-JKDS

1891

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:WNLY-DN2

Not sure if Michael is related somehow but thought worth mentioning as another avenue to check.